Keith Smith

One of the things we have been working on is the content for the Private BJ forum. With the help of Kachatz1 and Mike, we are looking closely at Multiple hand safe strategy to get an advantage. We are seeing interesting results going from 3 hands down to 1 hand as we adjust our play to safe strategy. More to come.....

You know I have to be honest I spoke to his son before he died and he said to me the demise of his Father has been Baccarat System, thinking he could find and invent the Holy Grail. He actually believes it. But years before that I always appreciated what he wrote about Blackjack and always hoped he would find his way back to it. I started this as a list server called info@winningways.com and warned him about letting his ego get the best of him, this was in 1995. Sadly he is unable to take the advice of anyone and proved it yet again with this post Well, I was considered best BJ player in the world by many casino chains and I held the record for being barred from BJ by the most casinos. So sure, I can add a few things:

HEy what about the really nice owner and stuff!!!

There is something magical that happens when you get to hang out with people who are passionate about the direction of their life and where they are going with their small business. But I have to say, there was one topic that so many hit on because right now it is without question the hottest way to make money hands down. How to Win At Baccarat in the Casino Yes, as a matter of fact the very my good buddy Kevin came right out of the gate and nailed it big-time talking about the power of connecting with other players through BeatTheCasino.com For years system sellers have ruled the market, coming up with a new flavor of the week systems that sells for thousands of dollars. However, this past few weeks one of my main topics was all about engagement with other players and why YOU need to do it today because of the powerful insights that an entire group can accomplish. This is exactly why I am starting my membership drive called…. The Baccarat Master Classes Clicked her to get registered before the price goes up There is a revolution happening right now in terms of how we win in the casino If you haven't heard yet, there is millions of people using old system sellers methodology but you need a way to match the games to the approach in Baccarat with them if you want to WIN big. This is what I will teach you how to do in this workshop. We have Three Master Classes scheduled for September 7th , September 21st at 8PM EST and the last one Live from a play session on September 27th . Now the folks running and hosting these play sessions are not people who are systems sellers, who talk about playing, these are Real Professionals who have bet and won Millions playing real casino. Way2Fast and Kachtaz1 on our forum are the consummate Professional Players and analysts. By the way these guys have won so much and believe in the power of our group that they are doing these sessions for free to help further develop our Professional Baccarat Club. We all have learned it is the collective wisdom, experience of all players that make us winners. There is a window of opportunity to really take advantage of this new strategy before the masses catch on. With 90%+ win rates and the ability to start winning almost immediately, it's almost silly not to join us. For the last 3 months I have been testing, tweaking, and implementing this in my play and now it's time to teach you. Are YOU ready to take your playing up a notch …. Click Here To Get Registered as a Premium Member to Join P.S. Wait you know what.... let’s do this to prove we are not systems sellers, simply join our club and you can have all three Master Classes for FREE from the finest Baccarat Players in the world. Also if you sign up for the classes if you are near the casino where we are playing for the live session, you are more than welcome to join us at the table. We put our money where our mouth is. JOIN THE REAL PLAYERS AND REAL WINNERS AT BEATTHECASINO.COM P.S.S I am limiting the sign ups for this Master Classes to 25 so sign up now to reserve your seat for the Live Session. The Session will be done with Go To Meeting.

Hi The Master Classes are for a new member promotion to try to get some new members. It will be free for any premium members to watch after it is over as a recording in a thread where you can ask question of John and Kevin concernign the content. Regards KS

This is the best forum on the internet the guys can play so there are no system sellers, only solutions and help. We are not supporting anyone person but are supporting each other and how to win. This is the model that will work. It's 50 bucks which goes to keep the lights on

yes thank you sorry Iam at the Seminole Hard Rock this week

Team, We will be doing three master classes with Kachatz1 and Way2fast, the last one will be from the casino with myself and W2F on September 27th. If you are a premium member you will have access to them as a recording. This is a great opportunity and chance for you to get a real bonus for joining the private forum. I wanted to extend this to you before I release it to the general public as I am limiting it to 25 new members to join. If you want access to them, sign up in the next 24 hours and you can attend it live via go to meeting or recordings. I will be releasing to the general population as an incentive to join. All current members and those that join in the next 24 hours will have access to the master class recording.

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opened a ticket at the server level to restore any missing posts after the upgrade for this thread. I will advise Thanks for your patiences KS

and only 50 bucks a month for the entire love fest what more could you want hahaha Yea call me 717.319.8935

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Yea probably he is from Canada a newbie a knows everyone

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My suggestion would be to go observe the casino where you are playing first and chart a few score cards here. Post them and see what some of the players think.

Hi, Keith, I don't see much going on in the private paid section........according to the title of discussion | topic, in fact, the forum seems to be becoming pretty quiet. I think the quality of the discussion is what has value and merit. One of the complaints I got was there is a new system every month for sale. I am trying to make a reasonably priced forum that has good information and contributions from everyone. We have learned that it is the collective wisdom and insights of many and not a self-proclaimed genius that makes a forum and Professional Players Club have values to everyone. This is the reason for creation the section called System Seller reviews. Think it cost me about 6 or 7 hundred when I joined about 6 or 7 years ago....when unnamed was still around. Plus seminars I attended in Vegas......and nothing has worked, none of many unnamed authored systems he posted on the forum, seem like a new one every few months or so........and none of them worked !!! I mean, think about it Keith, if he had a real winner...why would he have to refinance his house, couple years back.....and one computer that was always breaking down? A man that says he made millions of seminars, books, systems ......never a losing day when he lived in Atlantic City.........should have a house paid for at his age ...and at least two computers !! :)...Right ?............and not be trying to sell nonworking bac or blackjack systems.....but live in Vegas instead of in the boonies of Arkansas........and make a grand a day !! But than of course I never seen Unnamed win after seminar play......:) While I agree, all systems work sometimes, the lesson learned that you always need two approaches minimum and there is always subjectivity in the approach. I am not certain why others only demand from our forum lifetime memberships, it seems you should demand this from those who wrote that and claimed it and got the majority of the funds. As for pricing, it should be extremely clear now who insisted on the pricing and who the beneficiary of it was. I am quite certain that much was learned from the seminars and also from the approaches you studied, at least I hope. Many of the concepts and thought processes have much value in winning at Baccarat, I doubt few would disagree. I have spent enough Keith......on BTC........with seminars, etc.......and it still remains a flip of the coin game...no really method that wins consistently that I have seen !! And I don't see anyone really raving and ranting ..............oh maybe few guys...Oz........Way To Fast...........McVince.... I have always said, even players who are consistent winners, have to be careful not to think you win because you have discovered the magic sauce. When I listen and observe others who play, I hear things that they assume to be true when in fact they are speculating, to your point a coin flip. Now those speculations and theories may be good guesses and assumption, but they are unproven. For instance, I remember a few players said to me, certain things happen in every shoe on counts and events. Well in an extreme example yes you could say with pretty good certainty that you will see a 1 in a row in 72 hands. And yes in a bell curve you will see 99.97% of events fall into the realm of normalcy. But can you predict that in any subsets of hands of Baccarat i.e a game), well sometimes? If the game is random, the counts ( when I say counts I mean SAP count or any tracking mechanism of events) are falling into those parameters, and if you win, you are winning because you are betting what usually occurs in a population of events ( not one game). Sure a game can produce equal results of counts and ups and down always moving towards the zero line, most will..its just science, but in a random game, this is normal; it is when randomness offers up the extreme variations due to chance when you get burnt. Sure money management and common sense betting can alleviate some of this, but in the end what you must track to prove your approach works is can you predict more hands that win than lose by the statistics you keep. That is the true statistic of a winning system. After all, if you think about it what else could it be? We have seen this in Stats for Profits if you bet a negative progression, that after 3 two in a rows go to 3s and continue to do this you will have statistical resistants, but if you continue, sure enough, you have games where there are 10 consecutive 2 in a rows without a 3, eating up all you made and losing the vig. The lesson here for me is that 1,2,3,4,5 in a row happen all the time. In Baccarat we seem to think in some games they tend to follow patterns, maybe but not near as much as we believe. Even those who think that, have two schools of thought, bet what occurs will continue, bet what occurs will not continue. All bases are covered but only one can be correct in each game so to your point it’s a toss-up. We are back to Banker or Player, two will stay 2’s or2’s will go to threes etc. I have contend from my Six Sigma training is Assignable Cause Variation is the only reason a game will be non-random. and for the most part it is almost impossible to prove from the player's side. We look at patterns and counts when what we need to find, is reasons shuffles card prep clumped cards etc. The best thing that I have seen so far again is only a statistic, my tracking seems to indicate that long run TBL shoes have more ties. It seems to insure opposite runs and longer runs for some reason, cause I don’t know only have the statistic. I look at specific casinos. To circle back, the games that have a true bias that we predict are those that have process variation as the cause. If we can identify those games then we can assign a system to beat them because they will. If you have two di and one of the di has three 4s on it that is a process variation or flaw, the di’s are not similar needless to say you would bet 4’s would come up more, it the same principle, find the flaw and you find the variation that will continue. If not the game is random and banker wins slightly more than player, and it is next to impossible to know when a long run or sequence of any opposites or repeats will occur except you will see what is supposed to happen, mostly events of 1,2,3,4,5 with diminishing frequency occurring at undefinable locations, unless you know what cards are coming. I respect you Keith and liked you, having met you in Vegas. Maybe give me like a 3 day pass......to look around the private....maybe I would discover I am wrong !! LOL A day does not go by when someone doesn’t ask me for a free pass, mention a life long membership or some other reason not to join and get the benefit that others have. If this forum was free to host maybe one day I will simply sell advertising and open it all up but now I want it to be a professional players club. It has no commitment you can cancel whenever you want to and it’s $50 bucks to join. Take care Bro..........thanks for writing !! johnny/albuquerque ps..........yeah , would love something that really worked well...that I could use at my casino right by my house...just 2 miles down the road !! google Sandia Casino.......nice place.........plus we have a few more right around Albuquerque...real close by !! All have Baccarat ! WHO NEEDS VEGAS ANYMORE !!!....ITS NOT LIKE THE OLE DAYS...WHEN I WORKED FOR TRANS WORLD AIRLINES , AND FLEW UP EVERY WEEK TO BET FOOTBALL.........FLEW FREE OF COURSE AND STILL DO......Now the place is crazy with crime , drugs , rip off hotels and there tacked on hotel fee's and parking fee's and resort fee's...........and its not so much of the cost...but the principal of it...ripping off the tourists !!.......I may , just make another trip or 2...just to check out Stadium Baccarat at the Palazoo............but thats about it for Vegas for this ole guy ! Tell ya works for me at my casino 2 miles down the road..........Sandia Casino........wait for 3 in a row..bet opposite........pick up a $100.........and go home !! A friend of a friend , went to Vegas almost every week from Phoenix and made a killing using it !! Found it in some gambling book from a second hand store...he bet a 124 progression............if he lost that progression..........than he followed the run with flat betting !! Believe it or not..won a ton of money !!! Hard to believe...but claimed it was true !! TAKE CARE KEITH.......AND BLESSINGS !! Good approach but my contention with those systems is the cards and casino have no idea when you leave. You are betting effectively an MDB using statistical resistance to runs to your advantage. We use to do it in the 90s betting a negative progression against three in a row. Eventually, unless you find an assignable cause or are lucky you will lose all you won due to vig and longer runs.

It's only $50.00 bucks here geez could use a few more private member supporting the cause hahaha. Those Vegas videos aren't cheap. What do we say at the table Support for the bet hahaha? You can get it all here. Again, any system you want to learn can be found in our Professional Player's Forum. Whether you play Baccarat, Blackjack or any game in the casinos you will get all the information of how to win. Stop wasting your hard earned money paying thousands of dollars to system sellers, the real information is in our Professional Player's Forum. No one needs to sell systems in this club they know how to win. Join us, you can win too. Again, any system you want to learn can be found in our Professional Player's Forum. Whether you play Baccarat, Blackjack or any game in the casinos you will get all the information of how to win. Stop wasting your hard earned money paying thousands of dollars to system sellers, the real information is in our Professional Player's Forum. No one needs to sell systems in this club they know how to win. Join us, you can win too.

What Ellis should do is start talking About NBJ and WCB instead if Baccarat. They were good manuals and had depth. He argued that it occured too often but at least it had some depth of thought in them. If he would I am sure he would do better.

hahaha that's perfectly fine a little repetition helps. Also, take took at the Triggers Video KS

On some rules we have played 4 or mores on others we have played confirmed 4's and 3's or 2s for that matter. . I always liked if I was betting a 4 was going to go to a 5 I want to see three 4s prior and and confirmed 4's in most cases. If you are betting the potential 3 is going to a 4 then you cannot use the 6 as a 4 is a subset of the 6. This would count as a 4 going to 5 situation P1242414(3) This would not P1242714(3) Is that what you were asking?

Me neither it isn't worth the risk where the house makes money by winning.

Tbl i bought in for 100 playing dimes

This sentence makes no sense what so ever to me? Can someone explain it to me what is artificially Randomized? Today's casinos are fond of dealing artificially randomized shoes

The MOAB (Mother of All Baccarat) TBL hahaha