brad01
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Hey guys don't forget u can play roulette just like bacc using even chances.
i guess the house edge for double zero American roulette is not as attractive as a single zero European wheel but an insurance bet on zero if playing at high enough units can be used.
heres some spins straight off a european wheel from crown casino Perth.
16 8 36 29 16 14 24 35 16 16 31 23 28 32 25 31 5 14 26 17 15 2 9 31 2 14 11 26 11 2 20 11 11 24 18 36 4 1 29 4 33 16 12 36 7 24 18 28 6 27 35 16 28 26 11 12 7 14 2 27 0 2 14 28
64 spins only 1 zero !
red / black:
R11112221121124121821134112113311111
S40 opposites, SS, opposite repeat switch
its there for the taking - no preshuffled cards no machine shuffle or hand shuffle just pure 50 / 50
u do the odd / even and high / low games
3 games in 1
choose the best or play all 3
wish I had of played this instead of bacc today - I won but felt like I got robbed by banker 6-1:2 payout
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Can't really comment on that. I set up a PayPal payment which debits from my bank acct. Not sure what else you could do. A dummy cc with a positive balance for payments maybe?
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Check this one out:
B113(PPTP)11326111331111221(T)11131418(BBBBBBTBTTB)1(T)1(T)3112321
I played this at Crown Casino Perth today and taking careful note of the ties I noticed they seemed to come at some very strategic positions whether it be by luck or pre-determined but I think it was just luck
Firstly the ties were clumped very tightly towards the end of the shoe - 5 ties in 10 hands
Secondly 2 of them came at positions where it made me think twice about my betting decisions.
Thankfully due to CT70 I was aware of them:
221(T) - I was looking at betting CT70's famous 2211 trigger but the tie came and made me think twice but I ignored it and the bet won.
1314181(T) - towards the end of the banker SS I was starting to think when I should cash in and abandon it. Just when the tie came I was going to abandon it and then I thought go with it as this could be a trap to make me pull the bet or bet player - I doubled on banker and it won so I abandoned SS after that which turned out to be perfect.
So some really good info here on ties by CT - thanks
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My casino uses angel preshuffled cards put through shufflers (don't know if they are shufflemaster as you cant see them)
I also play online at Black Orchid / Celtic Casino.
They use the same feed as many other online casinos from Costa Rica.
It is live dealer 6 deck hand shuffled
I actually do better at my casino than what I do online
I suppose the shufflers would have the ability to put the cards in any order if the casino wanted that but the shoes that come out have pretty good biases that are easy to pick.
So it sort of shoots down the preshuffled vs hand shuffled myth as well.
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I think the best thing is read mcvinces sap thread in premium members
he has a really good and simple way to use sap
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He's right in theory.
Fortunately theory often goes out the window in the real world.
According to mathematical calculations based on the surface area of a dragonflys wings, weight, speed that it's wings oscillate etc it should not be able to fly
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Never read the Wizard Of Odds or been a fan. Even more so now:
What he has done is copied a mathematical analysis off of google pretty much word for word but changed the variable symbols to make it look different
Then he says its worthless as it cant be applied to 2 different games - missing the point.
What about 2 different strategies applied to the same game?
I first heard of this on a roulette forum about 10 years ago where a guy used 5 of 6 lines as a unit building method and then 2 of 3 dozens as a recovery system when he lost the 6 line method
Switching between the 2 they worked perfectly to allow him to build small units most of the time and recover the small unit loss with the other method.
He referred to Parrandos Paradox then.
Applying this to baccarat when a NOR bias is running say OTBL and you bet 2's and 3's then you wait till you see x amount of 3's and apply MDB+ to wait or to bet this theory is Parrandos Paradox
What it means is what kachatz has been saying for a while - you need a range fo tools to beat bacc and 2 or more strategies combined to take advantage of strengths and weaknesses of each will allow you to do better than with just 1 strategy.
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Thanks.
Parrondos Paradox: in game theory is described as: a combination of losing strategies becomes a winning strategy. Named after its founder Juan Parrondo who discovered it in 1996
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Parrondo's Paradox is a phenomenon where 2 losing games can be combined to create a winning game.
the reason why this is possible is because is because one is able to vary the time and capital between the 2 games to avoid unfavourable conditions.
How does this apply to baccarat or gambling?
Take 2 strategies that have a mathematical negative expectancy but can win under favourable conditions and combine them and one is able to create a winning strategy by avoiding the unfavourable conditions of each.
example: nor and mdb+
vin-norsap
look it up
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Parrondo's Paradox is a phenomenon where 2 losing games can be combined to create a winning game.
the reason why this is possible is because is because one is able to vary the time and capital between the 2 games to avoid unfavourable conditions.
How does this apply to baccarat or gambling?
Take 2 strategies that have a mathematical negative expectancy but can win under favourable conditions and combine them and one is able to create a winning strategy by avoiding the unfavourable conditions of each.
example: nor and mdb+
vin-norsap
look it up
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Could it be that preshuffled and hand shuffled achieve same result and that there is no significant difference? Just thinking out loud. Can u achieve same results in online as u do in real casino?
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I have been saying for a while that bacc theory can be applied to even money roulette. In some ways it's easier but the house edge is higher
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I don't know for sure but I think the whole point of revamping the forum was to not charge permanent memberships but monthly fees with no contracts
So its just a $50 monthly fee now for access to everything where as before $500 was for NOR and then MDB+ was extra etc etc
It divided the forum
So I don't believe there is any more permanent lifetime memberships
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Moving on....!
I'm also gonna quote McVinces recent one
If you want this to be your job then make it your job!
That statement turned a lot of lights on for me and went down the casino that night and won!
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He's a likeable character
And always good for a laugh
Not him just some of the things he says.
There's a place for him out there in the baccarat world!
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A negative progression is like picking up $10 notes in a minefield!
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I knew it was just a matter of time before Oz saw this post !.
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Difference of opinions and a constant debate between negative progressions vs up as you win
Its good that you can look at a 30% drawdown as you are up 70%
I guess it comes back to the cup half empty or cup half full concept
I say the cup is neither - its actually half full !
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The first example you showed you used a 2400 unit BR and had a drawdown of 795
That's 30% of your BR
Cant help thinking that with a negative progression eventually you will not recover if you are down 30% and are increasing your bets to hope to recover?
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Thanks for sharing your method here
I'm gonna stick with my flat bet method
-5 stop loss and all I have to worry about is to hit better than 50%
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Yeah true but it would be good to know why you are losing so make record of the shoes you lose on.
Actually I look at losing as a good thing because it gives you a chance to make your strategy better.
In the meantime then yes skip the losing part of the pattern until you work out why
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Sound like something to do with the betting strategy you are making vs the shoe type you are playing against
Try to record the losses and work out why you are losing on them
If it is a recurring pattern then skip the 3rd bet and play it on paper only
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Hi SDB,
I talk from my personal experience only that you need to try many methods and strategies and pick the one that works for you AND that you like The 2 should both tie in.
You must believe in the strategy you play and have confidence with your strategy
You must practise it every day and really believe that you can win more than you will lose with it.
Your strategy doesn't have to be exactly like someone else's it can be a combination of many things which you combine and tweak and work out for yourself
You must keep learning new things and trying to find new ways to get better. Everything you learn can also be applied to your strategy to either make a betting choice stronger or a no bet choice stronger.
If you want to see an example of this read McVinces strategy and how he developed it.In regards to discipline you must be able to apply your strategy in the shoe at hand and you must know when to bet but more importantly when not to bet
In my opinion anyone can throw a chip on the table but not too many can think and pass on a bet they are not sure about
Further to that you must recognise the potential of every bet, every shoe, every session and know when to pass and call it a day.
That is the hardest thing and what will separate you from the losers as they will not pass on bets they will throw a chip on the table when they don't really know and then they will chase their losses bet after bet, shoe after shoe, day after day.
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An important tip when playing stadium bacc which could save a costly mistake.
Was playing all day Sunday on and off as watching UFC live at sports bar but every few fights went to play a shoe on the stadium bacc setup
Chinese guy behind me moved off of his screen forward right next to me
Didn't think too much of it and then cashed out and came back and by chance picked the terminal he moved from
Tried to place a bet and the screen was faulty and it placed a bet in the wrong section.
Pressed cancel nets and it added more $$.
Time was running out so I tapped it several times fast and it kept adding $$ every time I tapped it
Bet lost
Cashed out and moved to screen next to it
Heres the tip: SPEND 10 SECONDS AND CHECK THE SCREEN IS NOT FAULTY BEFORE YOU PLAY
Won the money back within 1 shoe but it could have been profit
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Hi CT great info on preshuffled cards
i guess you have to be ware of this because of where u play.
the other day I was playing at my casino which uses angel preshuffled put through auto shuffler
shoe started with strong tbl trend.
made me think these cards are random.
it was a trap and the end of the shoe was tricky to burn all the greedy players
the cards are not random!