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I was recently informed that Sportsbook.com (no, I am not an affiliate or anything like that) has opened up a live casino operation at their site and it's supposedly accepting US players. Their frontend page reminds me a lot of Racebook.com's front page, right down to the member balance design.

I had previously used them as a visitor to check on moving NFL lines and as I already had the link on the computer, I went over and checked it out.

After reading through all the small print, I elected to sign up, but with no deposit, as I'm still just testing the waters for an alternate live play, online baccarat game.

After moving through an amazingly complex series of screens, I did arrive at the live tables.

Hmmm, this looks familiar.

I logged into the other live sites we all use on the other computers and sure enough, there it was. Same girl, same table, same shuffle going on.

Sportsbook.com's live game is also Black Orchid's live game. Pixel to pixel identical.

So, if you've enjoyed the super fast game at Black Orchid but couldn't make a deposit, perhaps this is a secondary avenue in.

I have NOT made a deposit yet as I want to see how this fills out for a month.

If anyone comes up with more valid information, both good and bad, please post it in this thread for the rest to keep up to date on.

MVS

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All,

I was recently informed that Sportsbook.com (no, I am not an affiliate or anything like that) has opened up a live casino operation at their site and it's supposedly accepting US players. Their frontend page reminds me a lot of Racebook.com's front page, right down to the member balance design.

I had previously used them as a visitor to check on moving NFL lines and as I already had the link on the computer, I went over and checked it out.

After reading through all the small print, I elected to sign up, but with no deposit, as I'm still just testing the waters for an alternate live play, online baccarat game.

After moving through an amazingly complex series of screens, I did arrive at the live tables.

Hmmm, this looks familiar.

I logged into the other live sites we all use on the other computers and sure enough, there it was. Same girl, same table, same shuffle going on.

Sportsbook.com's live game is also Black Orchid's live game. Pixel to pixel identical.

So, if you've enjoyed the super fast game at Black Orchid but couldn't make a deposit, perhaps this is a secondary avenue in.

I have NOT made a deposit yet as I want to see how this fills out for a month.

If anyone comes up with more valid information, both good and bad, please post it in this thread for the rest to keep up to date on.

MVS

Thanks for posting this information on Sportsbook.com. I saw someone mentioned that place had live dealer baccarat and U.S friendly but when I went to the site and promptly got lost trying to find the live games, so gave up on it. Glad to hear there may be a place we can now play BOC for $$$.

P.S. I've seen the screen shots of 5dimes live Bac and definately not BOC. I checked them out a couple months back and see that they lease their feed out to a couple of other casinos. As I recall 5dimes is another Costa Rica based outfit with a good sportbetting reputation. I have not made a deposit there yet.

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All,

From all the reports of a lot of online baccarat tables all being basically "Black Orchid's" tables, I'm just assuming somebody finally figured out that it was much easier and cheaper to simply lease or rent out "time" on the BASE BACCARAT GAME and just label it under your own banner.

It just makes good economic sense, especially if you're a small to medium sized company at this time.

Until the the major casinos get US approval for legitimate online play, this seems like the logical progression for the time being and it should tend to keep the "rogue" online casinos from gaining any ground at all.

MVS

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All,

I was recently informed that Sportsbook.com (no, I am not an affiliate or anything like that) has opened up a live casino operation at their site and it's supposedly accepting US players. Their frontend page reminds me a lot of Racebook.com's front page, right down to the member balance design.

MVS

Has anyone played there since this original posting? Does it handle US players OK?

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Although I did set up an account, I have not made a cash deposit yet as I wanted to play on the live tables with "play" money but evidently that's not an option. I've looked!

It still appears to use the Black Orchid baccarat rooms and hopefully somebody has bought in over there and can give us an update otherwise I may have to just break down and buy in for a few hundred to see if the payouts and the like are good or bad.

MVS

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Ive been playing Celtic Casino who are also based in Costa Rica. After taking a look at the dealers on blackorchids site, it appears that Celtic Casino are also using their dealers as I recognise some of them. I have a feeling that its all about the Visionary Igaming platform that they buy into and then just rebrand the front end. http://www.visionaryigaming.com/

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Ive been playing Celtic Casino who are also based in Costa Rica. After taking a look at the dealers on blackorchids site, it appears that Celtic Casino are also using their dealers as I recognise some of them. I have a feeling that its all about the Visionary Igaming platform that they buy into and then just rebrand the front end.

RobMi,

Yes, I tend to go along with that scenario for sure. They are identical so obviously the plan is to use a central "game" and rebrand it as needed. Actually, that's probably the smartest way to do it unless you're one of the "big guys" and could afford the infrastructure on your own.

I guess I'll just make the test deposit over there and split my play time between them and BetPhoenix for now.

MVS

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It's my understanding that some states, including my state of NJ, are considering making online betting legal. In NJ, the website would benefit and be run by casinos here in Atlantic City.........Jersey

RobMi,

Yes, I tend to go along with that scenario for sure. They are identical so obviously the plan is to use a central "game" and rebrand it as needed. Actually, that's probably the smartest way to do it unless you're one of the "big guys" and could afford the infrastructure on your own.

I guess I'll just make the test deposit over there and split my play time between them and BetPhoenix for now.

MVS

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All,

I was very close to making a test deposit tonight at Sportsbook dot com to see how it goes. As it is supposed to allow US players, I figured I really should at least check it out.

Their required security paperwork is similar if not the same as Bet Phoenix's ID and paperwork requirements but when I read the withdrawal methods, I came to a screeching halt. The one that I would use, mainly a paper check, looked like this.....

Check or Gift Card: Processing time: 4-6 weeks. The maximum you may request as a check is $2500. All checks will be sent via courier service. When you request a check you may receive a Gift Card instead

Four to Six weeks to get a payout????? Uh, I'm used to getting my check in 4 to 6 DAYS now.

So, for that reason alone, I'll hold off on making my initial deposit at Sportsbook dot com for live baccarat play.

If anyone has more up to date or real work experience with them, please post it up here in this thread.

MVS

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But MVS.......if you get it in the form of a gift card, I would be more than happy to receive your gift. LOL...............Jersey

All,

I was very close to making a test deposit tonight at Sportsbook dot com to see how it goes. As it is supposed to allow US players, I figured I really should at least check it out.

Their required security paperwork is similar if not the same as Bet Phoenix's ID and paperwork requirements but when I read the withdrawal methods, I came to a screeching halt. The one that I would use, mainly a paper check, looked like this.....

Check or Gift Card: Processing time: 4-6 weeks. The maximum you may request as a check is $2500. All checks will be sent via courier service. When you request a check you may receive a Gift Card instead

Four to Six weeks to get a payout????? Uh, I'm used to getting my check in 4 to 6 DAYS now.

So, for that reason alone, I'll hold off on making my initial deposit at Sportsbook dot com for live baccarat play.

If anyone has more up to date or real work experience with them, please post it up here in this thread.

MVS

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