Important Message to New Members

[Pando]

Hi and welcome all new members

I just want to relate my personal experience of what I learned and achieved

in my 8 months since I became a full member at BTC.

I had never played baccarat until September last year. I decided to give it a shot,

practised on line, but really got nowhere except backwards. All I learned were the

rules of the game.

Then I joined BTC as basic member.

This gave me an insight into NOR, the basis of how to play this game properly, but it is

only an insight. The real information is gained by becoming a full member and getting full

access to the various seminars run by Ellis, Keith and Steve, the manuals, and by the vital

feedback and information from other players, serious players.

Once I understood NOR, I understood that each casino is different, and you have to

adapt your play accordingly. You cannot do this if your are only a basic member as

you simply do not have the tools to do so.

Then along came MDB+. This is simply the BEST EVER method to play factory produced

pre-shuffled shoes (touch game). It achieves a hit rate of over 90% for the various bets

that can be made. In my case I have made one bet 46 times and (just like some

other players who say the same), it has never lost a 3 step progression. Staggering.

I proved the effectiveness of MDB+ on a trip to Macau 3 weeks ago. One day I won

13 consecutive bets on a HK$500 table, the next day 8 straight (I quit on the first

loss both times). I did not play until I understood the shoes and found the right

tables on the night (BTC full membership teaches you how to do this).

This success is not a fluke - it requires hard work, practice, mental agility, dedication,

BUT you need to be a full member to get the best of the experience of all of the team

at BTC and the input of some highly successful players.

I know for a fact that without BTC, you will inevitably loose at the same rate as everyone

else, a rate which is much higher than it statistically should be. The casinos have the

average player over a barrel - being an average player is nowhere good enough.

So I suggest that if you, like I was, are somewhat unsure, believe me when I say its the best

investment in the game you could ever make. I got my money back within a couple

of months and have progressed from playing $10 units to now playing $100 units.

My target is 1 million dollars.

I don't always win large amounts, but rather a steady and planned progression of wins

aiming towards being as successful as some other BTC players who have passed the

1 million dollar profit mark. The bets are fewer but targeted, the hit rate very high.

If you try and play without all of the tools available you will never succeed, its as

simple as that. Losing is not fun, been there, done that.

I don't work for BTC (other than make my contributions to the forum), nor do I get

or want any commission for writing this, but I feel it is important to let you all know that if

you are not a full member then you are missing something special.

In this world the only thing you get for nothing is nothing. You owe it to yourself to

become a full member and enjoy the success I and others have had.

Only if you want to be a serious player that is .............................

regards

Pando

[Pando]

I could also add that SAP and the like are also taught to full members

Pando

[William Looi]

I am a new member in NOR and I live in Malaysia very far from America. is it possible for me to join BTC and learn BTC method without joining the seminars?

[kachatz1]

I am a new member in NOR and I live in Malaysia very far from America. is it possible for me to join BTC and learn BTC method without joining the seminars?

Pando's experience is not that unusual...BUT, you will have to take it slow and study, practice a lot

The seminars can be very helpful, but they are best utilized when you have already gained enough knowledge to be deciding each hands play based on the system methodology best suited to your casino you play at

The seminars then serve to help you " iron out/ correct" the minor glitches in your play, and reinforce the understanding you already have

That you even asked the question suggests to me you are a good candidate to learn, practice and WIN at the game...it is far more than luck, and is quite a lot of work to become " skilled"

Good luck to you.

Kevin

[brad01]

I think Kevin's advice is very good. I do think the nor boot camps are good once you already know nor. Read the manual at least 10 times unless you are real smart. Re read it every few weeks if you need to. I just finished re reading it.

Practise every day

Make sure you know strength and weaknesses of all 3 nor systems

Be sure you can look at a shoe and identify best system and mode instantly

Make sure you know when to go aggressive on a good shoe and hit +40 ish and also get through a tough shoe with +5 or even +2.

Be able to walk away with stop loss once you hit it if you hit it

Average shoes needed to be played before play for real is recommended at 300

Ask for help on your losing shoes

I'm relatively new member too and the above is what I found works

[kachatz1]

I think Kevin's advice is very good. I do think the nor boot camps are good once you already know nor. Read the manual at least 10 times unless you are real smart. Re read it every few weeks if you need to. I just finished re reading it.

Practise every day

Make sure you know strength and weaknesses of all 3 nor systems

Be sure you can look at a shoe and identify best system and mode instantly

Make sure you know when to go aggressive on a good shoe and hit +40 ish and also get through a tough shoe with +5 or even +2.

Be able to walk away with stop loss once you hit it if you hit it

Average shoes needed to be played before play for real is recommended at 300

Ask for help on your losing shoes

I'm relatively new member too and the above is what I found works

I re-read it all the time.

It is so powerful, you really almost cannot lose.

Unless you disregard Kenny Rogers' advice .

You can google it.

All the best.

[LOU30]

Practice,work at,PLAY,sleep...Repeat...The only way to succeed.

[kachatz1]

Practice,work at,PLAY,sleep...Repeat...The only way to succeed.[/QUOT

A couple of realistic responses...

Don't even think for a moment you can get to a mil strictly playing a single system " mechanically"

The Game has been around for 400 years +\-

maybe longer

Cavemen likely played it, just who had the biggest STONES?

( plus c'est la change, plus c'est la meme chose..)

And just when you thought I was all about The Walk Of Shame

[trbfla]

Practice,work at,PLAY,sleep...Repeat...The only way to succeed.[/QUOT

A couple of realistic responses...

Don't even think for a moment you can get to a mil strictly playing a single system " mechanically"

The Game has been around for 400 years +\-

maybe longer

Cavemen likely played it, just who had the biggest STONES?

( plus c'est la change, plus c'est la meme chose..)

And just when you thought I was all about The Walk Of Shame

HBO is airing the pac-may-weather fight tonight....I'm betting on pacman this time

[weddings]

I have purchased MDB. How can i join the members forum?

[Guest]

I have purchased MDB. How can i join the members forum?

And we are happy to have you. If you went thru paypal it should have been automatic.

Hit one of the MDB threads in the index and see if you are in.

If not, email Keith@beatthecasino.com

[Guest]

I am a new member in NOR and I live in Malaysia very far from America. is it possible for me to join BTC and learn BTC method without joining the seminars?

Well yes, new NOR members get a NOR manual and you can ask any questions on the forum.

Malaysia: You won't be our only player there.

When you get a chance, William, learn MDB+.

Malaysia uses mostly factory preshuffled cards from China.

THAT is what MDB+ is designed to beat.

OH and William, don't be afraid of our on line seminars - we are very used to players who don't have English as a first language.

Baccarat tends to have its own universal language. We know. We invented it.

Edited May 13, 2015 by Ellis

[Guest]

Guys, way2fast is at the last stage of the million dollar schedule strictly playing MDB+!

He will very likely be our third millionaire soon!

He is playing very conservatively now and has gone to 2 High betting at the higher units - a 122 progression.

No matter. He'll get there.

And he's giving us great trip reports every time he goes

So we know exactly how he's playing.

I don't know why everybody here is missing the boat.

MDB+ is very simple and has a 95% 3 bet progression win rate.

It's gotta be the easiest way there is to make a million or 2.

[Guest]

Everybody here is right. NOR is the best system on this planet by a country mile for regular cards.

Regular cards are cards that origionally came to the table in 8 single deck sealed boxes.

Most US casinos plus the entire internet uses regular cards and are highly susceptible to NOR.

Vegas uses mostly factory preshuffled cards which are highly susceptible to MDB+.

So, if you only know NOR but want to play Vegas, stick to the regular cards casinos like Flamingo.

Gil played Flamingo last night. I'm waiting to hear how he did.

NOR is composed of 4 simple systems:

OTB4L for Neutral shoes

S40 for choppy shoes (high in Opposites)

TB4L for streaky shoes (high in Repeats)

Hence the name NOR

You will normally select from those 3 systems to play the shoe at hand.

But every now and then you get a gift shoe that highly favors one side

The 4th NOR System F KILLS such shoes.

So OK you learn the 4 systems but how do you know which to play against the shoe at hand

AND how do you know which mode to play, Mode 2 or mode 3.

Let's take mode first.

We teach you a simple O/R count. A + count you play Mode 3. A minus or 0 count you play Mode 2.

So now the big dilemma: which of the 3 systems is best for the shoe at hand

I've been playing for 30+ years. I can glance at a tote board 2 isles away and know which system will beat that table.

You, well, not so much.

Sooo we teach you the SAP count. You can learn it in 10 minutes.

Every shoe ever dealt is high in something (like 2s) and low in something

like 4 or mores. That tells you precisely which system to play.

That's it! That is the whole kit and cabootle.

Consult the SAP count you know the system to play.

Consult OR count you know what mode to play.

A little experience you'll win 90% of your shoes or better.

So what decisions are left up to you???

Well, what are you going to drink? Be careful with that one!

Ellis, that sounds pretty complex. Yeah, for a baboon maybe.

But if you can find your way to a casino, you're smart enough to learn NOR.

Look, I know every system there is. But if I'm playing a regular cards casino or the internet. I'll be playing NOR.

It is the best there is. I've won 20 shoes in a row at 20 units a shoe maybe a hundred times.

And the more you play it the better you get.

Look, when I came out with NOR just about every other Baccarat site folded their tent.

That ought to tell you something - regular cards - play NOR. preshuffled play MDB+.

ANYone who applies himself can make a million dollars playing this game.

Our million dollar schedule? You only need to average 5 units a shoe.

If you can learn to do that - you can make a million dollars. Just 5 freaking units!

Edited May 13, 2015 by Ellis