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does anyone understand the 3hi rules? We have a 4 goes to 2 rule???? Is there a 3 zeroes go to 2 rule? Can anyone shed some light please.

I have played Tampa, it's nice but small high limit room. I haven't tried mdb there yet, but I will review it over the summer when I'm there.

Hey Mike yeah it was great to finally meet you. Hopefully we will have a chance to play together again soon.

Brad I agree with you if we switch, we end up losing to 2iar which occurs more often, or at least often enough. Perhaps the answer may lie within the progression. Perhaps we also need a third bet and perhaps a larger stop loss.

Dcurill sure thing no worries.....how many would you like to see?

Hi way, I played chop streak method and kept an eye on the mdb as it was happening......I also played my own version of s40.

Brad, I played 26 shoes over the weekend at the Rock. Both high limit and non high limit rooms. I didn't play mdb, and I'm glad I didnt. It lost in 14 of 26 shoes on the 124 progression. I saw 8 2s before as 3, I saw 6 3s before a 4 over and over. But I know this about my home casino already. I can post the shoes if you'd like. I tried the 2hi on these shoes and it didn't fair as well either....got stomped out early on 3s.... I say this because I think having local casino knowledge is important

Thanks everyone for your input. I think this topic is so key to having successful trips. It just seems to me that I win more stopping at 5? Maybe it's all in my head?

i started this thread and not sure where the best folder is for this. I'm now playing a different bet selection model. We know about patience and bankroll. Also guidance and GREAT discipline. So now I pose this question for debate. I like to play to 5+ commish or -6 and commish. Either one hits and I'm off to the next shoe. I never record or stay to watch to see what ifs. If I try to play the half decade rule I end up leaving at plus 3 more times than I go to plus 8 or more....so I sorta look at 5 to exit the shoe. Now I play often so the thought of me just playing one long continuous shoe in my lifetime is certainly noted; I look at hitting plus 5 as a way to color up long term. So am I short changing myself by this method? Thoughts?

Ok way you'll love this being a fellow golfer. I was at the rock last night high limit room and this pga golfer sits down next to me-he's playing in the Doral this weekend. So he's joking with dealer and pitboss and I say to him rough outing today huh he says yeah so I think I'm funny so I say perhaps you should be on the driving range and he looks at me and says no offense but I saw your last 2 bets perhaps you should be on the baccarat range. I said good one and bought him a beer

Just curious if Ellis or anyone can answer this for me? In the long run, how many events are allocated to 4s or less? Meaning if I add up all the 1s 2s, 3s and 4s what should that amount to? Is it 87.5% are 4s or less? Thanks

Hey way....I can tell you enough to get in trouble lol......I play at the hard rock ft. Lauderdale.....where the weather is a crisp 76 with sunny skies....for the last 3 months....lol.....the rock just remodeled the high limit room and I would put it up against any vegas high limit room....there are tons of smoke free lol tables and 5 private rooms that lead to 2 more private rooms......it is elegant and well kept......needless to say paid for by all the local winners lol....now that wS funny....

Hey Mike, happy to hear from you again....i've been looking for you at the rock but haven't seen you...love the new high limit room....I will keep my eyes open for ya...I guess I just keep missing you there........

oz....you are spot on but he never goes away.......

Wow no one has seen or heard from him? Not even ellis? It's like he vanished into thin air......maybe he completed mdb?

Ellis talked about updating us on this but as of late he still hasn't....way has been so giving of his time to help out with this method..........I'm still waiting to hear from him as he said he would expound on how to win sap both ways like what norm did......ellis mentioned it but never completed it

Has anyone heard from pompanomike lately......he's been quiet for many months......

Kevin- is it because momma says the casinos are the devil? Or that they give you high quality h2o

Ztomsk I really like the up and pull regression method using 2123 etc....allows you to lock in some profits....not to shabby when going for 6 per shoe

Ellis Being able to play SAP both ways would be amazing...cant wait to see how we do this.....major break through.... I'm going to teach you BOTH ways - Equalization vs Dispersment. We will usually be playing Dispersment - unless we are in Vegas But there are times..... SO, we need to know BOTH ways. But it is easy - as you will soon see.

Maybe Ellis, way, oz, Kevin or mvs can add to this topic....this is a really great topic. I know that the Seminole Hardrock gives me a form to fill out anytime I'm cashing over $9999. Per day regardless of where it came from...usually they ask me where I was playing and verify it with the pitboss....so I learned how to cash out over a period of several days.... But if the goal is to become part of the 10% , how do we best handle this aspect of the game.... What did Norm do when he won routinely in the high limit rooms? Wonder what advice Ellis and others have for us on this topic.....

thanks al for the reply and the update on the method you used...much appreciated....

Hi FrontAl and everyone- just curious does anyone know using a 3 step up as you win progression 1-2-2 , what do we do if we win the 1 and loss the first 2? Thanks, I'm just curious how to best use this.

Master p what is this new method you are talking about? Where are the rules Thank you

Wow baccarat guy.....let me get this straight......you call us a great group of assholes, after you tell Ellis how to market HIS ( read Ellis owns) website, after you tell us that we shouldn't light heartly envoke a thought process by using references to songs that are only used to envoke a thought process versus being spoon feed and BAM what do you know.....you are out trolling for free info on another forum that's free........ And this is the reason why most paid members do not like to post on the free board...... Baccarat guy.....perhaps an apology is in order or a explanation why you are trying to get others to give you copyrighted information for free....d bag. http://baccaratlabs.com/index.php?threads/btc-million-dollar-baccarat-nor.401/