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Tracking 2columns gives me 4 biases but tracking 4 columns gives me 8 not sure how I can be wrong on that You can see more biases with 8 not 4

Sorry but You can not track just 2 columns like p/b and 0/r you need at least 4 biases or at least 8 columns to be tracked to see any biases

With 4d sometimes you do have to go to jail and collect 200.

So with the 9 bet progression we are looking to win more 1 and 2 right. This does require a much larger buy in though

I do not mind if you post my PM.....I am not moved by this at all. I am not ashamed at all to admit it. I started my BTC membership Nov 28th and learned NOR and NOR+. Like all newbies, I encountered issues. My local casino shoes were much different than others such as Gold Coast and Tunica. I did lose quite a bit trying to learn as we all do. So I used the forum as it is intended and looked to network with other members in search of help. This does not make me weak. It makes me humble and grateful. Many members here have helped me out and some continue to do so. They were very giving of their time and willing and eager to HELP OTHERS OUT since most people have been in the same place I was...new and just starting. Some members continue to be a resource...its called relationship building and I am very grateful to the members who over the last 5 months who have helped me to improve my game and see that horses have no names when the 4d is rocking. THANK YOU GUYS......and gal. Yes I did ask you for help. Yes, I did seek your guidance..but you flat out refused. You turned your back on others just starting only to feed your EGO. and your arrogance. This is your right to do so.....I am happy that you have found a system that works. WHY are you still here? I have heard your facts and really don't care one bit about them. I can handle the truth, what I cant handle is you continuing to try to imped others from learning by filling up forums with gossip. You have issues with Ellis and continue to spew them here like a whiny gossiping 4th grader-this my friend makes you weak. Act like a man and handle your beef with Ellis like a gentleman would....if your capable of behaving as such. I am here to learn and get better. You are already there congrads. We are all happy for you and wish you the best. We hope to one day be there as well.

Why do members continue to post negativity when they already have it figured out but don't want to help others? Hooray your system works...why not go play it and leave the forum and take all your negative trash with you so those of us who wanna learn can do so without all your propaganda bs. If you have a beef with Ellis handle it like a man....spewing your filthy laundry is akin to 4th graders. You don't wanna contribute fine your perogative but don't clog up forums I'm not saying don't pm me ha so don't even ask!!!! That line is worth 10 a month

Keith Are we going to get a manual with the webinar purchase? How can we test to make sure we can even view the webinar ? Thanks Todd

Ellis what makes bas40 different then s40 and what makes baotb4l Different then otb4l

Great question blue

Ellis, On this shoe are some great examples of the s40.... But here is a question-you played right thru the +5 to bigger wins. Earlier it was suggested that after 5 wins we wait out 10 hands and play the shoe anew. While it worked out for you in this shoe, I see the benefit to +5 to get out before the worm turns. So I guess my question is, how do we know when to sit out 10 vs. playing onward.....does the or count help us, is it a personal choice?

Ellis or someone, we defineately need a million dollar thread with all the rules for ba40 etc

Ellis What's the progression in giving them half....is it straight 123 or more like 5% 10%? Do you have any idea how much damage can be done shopping on south beach...I'll never get to the next tier lol

Keith you know southeast coast is beautiful this time of year

Ellis thank you for this plan. It gives you everything you need for a self paced growth strategy and a back up plan for when you do falter. I'm putting this one in my manual for sure.

Ellis What were the tiers? When do you move up from $10 base bets ?

Ellis, Mike, Jaybird, kdawg, baccdj.......ok everyone Before you make a sticky thread on this, one quick question about bankroll and money management. Everyone is at their own place in personal comfort levels, but do you have a general rule of thumb on unit size increases? Meaning, our goal is say is +5 a shoe right. So if we start with greens $25 and say we win 20 shoes net, because we may lose some shoes, that's +100 units. Is now the time to increase our base bet to say $50 per hand until we reach another 20 +5 shoes again? Do you have a rule of thumb for tiered unit size increases? Thank you

Hey mike which or counts determine which mode?

Discipline is key

I am trying it now.....trying to see if more d will help fid the lowest d

Bet then you would love little palm island..you must have been in the remote parts of the Bahamas then........I just love south beach in the mornings....it's so alive as the day breaks.... My question might have been worded incorrectly, I meant I track or ot and oott.....am I missing out by not also including a p/b Also if I can track 5 would it make sense to track 5..... I can do pb , or, ot, oott and oootttt at casino speed always betting opposites on lowest spread. Thanks Glenn and jbird and kdawg as well Or is it ok to drop pb and just track or, ot, and oott.

Ellis, Drove down to south beach with the top down this morning for breakfast while the sun was rising and had a question for you. If tracking 4d 1. Is p/b a stong d or can you drop it and track say Oott instead? 2. Also if you can at track at casino speed say 5 ds is there any benefit to doing this? Thank you

I saw a guy at the rock do this for months winning 1k a day for months one day he lost 25k not once not twice but 3 times haven't seem him since

Yes you should have said Einstein. True that . Listen nobody is knocking Ellis here for his accomplishments, nor is anyone ungrateful to him for for helping us out, no one is knocking the BTC forum or it's members. No one is pissing in anyone's face. Grow up. No GROW UP!!! Do you understand this? Stop trying to start issues and stir the pot. Seems to me your the only one starting issues. I'm done with this craziness!

Ruebel Politics were brought in when you decided it was a good idea to use the old " Ellis as a Pope " analogy.

Ruebel Just because it's the Pope that doesn't mean the Pope has wisdom..,the Pope is a man, a religious figurehead.....being chosen as a Pope doesn't mean the man has wisdom. That's like saying Obama is intelligent because he was chosen as president and we all know how the last 8 years have turned out.......one word Obama care.......