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What is going on with bet phoenix? I'm looking at the live feed now and they are using 2 decks. A blue and a red. They are still playing an 8 deck shoe? I'm a little confused. Or are the decks completely different shoes?

You've played thousands of live shoes and not come across red and blue alternating decks before?

Oh...Oh...I've been expecting this...Jingle bells...jingle bells...jingle all the way...Oh what fun it is to....etc...:cool:

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What is going on with bet phoenix? I'm looking at the live feed now and they are using 2 decks. A blue and a red. They are still playing an 8 deck shoe? I'm a little confused. Or are the decks completely different shoes?

Sometimes they are the same, sometimes they are different. Sometimes they change color right before your eyes.....look closely cause the magic is right before you.......one time the Players at the table were yelling for a monkey and sure as hell the card turn right into a monkey.....it jumped at the cocktail waitress in a thong....

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I yell "winner winner chicken dinner on all naturals"

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Actually I was just trying to figure out what bet Phoenix is doing because 2 years ago they didn't show two different shoes on the same table.

Great group of assholes here ...

DAMMIT...Now I've got a real case of the guilts...

OK...I'm gonna help you out a bit coz I really like you...

Here's a link to another Forum that might suit you better... http://baccaratlabs.com/index.php?threads/btc-million-dollar-baccarat-nor.401/

And just to show you that there are no hard feelings ...I've even got a suggestion for your new username if you decide to (cough...cough) join...I think "baccaratplayer" has a nice ring to it.

No...Don't thank me...I'm here to help:wink:

Oz

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Sometimes they are the same, sometimes they are different. Sometimes they change color right before your eyes.....look closely cause the magic is right before you.......one time the Players at the table were yelling for a monkey and sure as hell the card turn right into a monkey.....it jumped at the cocktail waitress in a thong....

F'ing monkeys!

They were all over Dorothy in The Wizard of Oz...Good thing the movie was not made recently in the SanFernando Valley in LA...at least not today's SFV!!

( I'll stay away from the TV-MA explanation of just what THAT has to do with Baccarat...don't want to spoil it for anyone)

To All BTC players, Happy U Year...2015 will be all about U WINNING!!!

P.S. As for THE Monkees, have to look at their song list for some " dragon bonus" inspiration...

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Actually I was just trying to figure out what bet Phoenix is doing because 2 years ago they didn't show two different shoes on the same table.

Great group of assholes here ...

Wow baccarat guy.....let me get this straight......you call us a great group of assholes, after you tell Ellis how to market HIS ( read Ellis owns) website, after you tell us that we shouldn't light heartly envoke a thought process by using references to songs that are only used to envoke a thought process versus being spoon feed and BAM what do you know.....you are out trolling for free info on another forum that's free........

And this is the reason why most paid members do not like to post on the free board......

Baccarat guy.....perhaps an apology is in order or a explanation why you are trying to get others to give you copyrighted information for free....d bag.

http://baccaratlabs.com/index.php?threads/btc-million-dollar-baccarat-nor.401/

I yell "winner winner chicken dinner on all naturals"

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What??! That isn't me.

Wow. You people reay are ignorant.

You go and accuse me of posting under a different username with no real proof. Then other members tell me to apologize with no real proof that it was me. I have never been on that forum nor do I know anything about it. But yea I will check it out. Maybe they are nicer over there.

It's ashame really. I came here with great intentions. All I was looking for was some direction. Now I have no intention of joining this forum. You have all competley talked me out of it

That is fine though. I don't need to spend my time learning BTC systems. I can figure it out myself. Talk about being spoon feed. You all paid money to bed feed the answers so you don't have to figure it out yourself. Then you act high and mighty like you actually did anything. Kind of ironic really.

but hey..what can you expect. Gambling forums are lgoing to attract degenrates who think that they are making wise "investments"

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What is going on with bet phoenix? I'm looking at the live feed now and they are using 2 decks. A blue and a red. They are still playing an 8 deck shoe? I'm a little confused. Or are the decks completely different shoes?

BetPhoenix has always used at least two shoes as far back as I can remember.

They will shuffle them at the table, but they are switched in and out, probably already shuffled when they show up.

MVS

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Telling Ellis how to maket? No I was telling him that this forum is confusing and it's hard as hell to figure out how to buy a system. Oh sorry for trying to provide some feedback about how to make it easier to sell memberships!!

YEAH...RIGHT!...To anyone but you...LOL

You got caught out...

From the start, you were after free info and came up with a cock and bull story about paying to join the Private Forum from your Casino winnings...FFS!

You got caught out scamming...lying...bullshitting etc...and now you spit the dummy and carry on like a petulant schoolgirl.

I could give you all the reasons under the sun as to how we know you are the same guy asking for a free guide to MDB on the other Forum...but frankly...I can't be arsed.

So...you won't be paying to join the Private Forum?..."Cry me a river...I'll try and contain my disappointment":rolleyes:

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You got caught out scamming...lying...bullshitting etc...and now you spit the dummy and carry on like a petulant schoolgirl.

So many assumptions based on the way that you WANT to see things..not based not the actual facts. You have taken very little time to understand why I'm here. I bet that you think that the past decisions in the shoe influence the future decisions. Please tell me that you believe that...

I could give you all the reasons under the sun as to how we know you are the same guy asking for a free guide to MDB on the other Forum...but frankly...I can't be arsed.

To be clear, you can't give any reasons. If you could give reasons then you would have done so. The only real thing that would link my account to the account on the bac lab site is an IP address..something that you can never obtain from that site. So to put this nicely..you are talking out of your ass.

Thanks for making me aware of the thread in the baccarat labs site. It looks like some members are coming out to rip BTC apart. Like I said before, you are only doing more harm than good. First you completely talk me out of joining this community because you all can't be patient and now because of you..there are negative comments about BTC being indexed by Google in an open forum. More memberships being lost because of a few sensitive people who couldn't keep their mouths shut. Now ask yourself this...are you doing more harm to BTC at this point?

I think so.

So let's leave this as our last post because last time I checked you aren't the person who needs to be compensated for the time spent training people. You aren't the person who gets compensated for the costs to running this forum. You can say anything that you won't about me, but I"m just some guy. These negative threads will only hurt BTC in the long run.

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The only real thing that would link my account to the account on the bac lab site is an IP address..something that you can never obtain from that site. So to put this nicely..you are talking out of your ass.

Gentlemen,

I have mentioned in an earlier post about remaining civil and getting back to BetPhoenix. Evidently this hint was lost on some.

So, with the Administrative tools available to me, and a very intimate knowledge of "how stuff works", it was a mere trifle to do some research and the "numbers" bear out the prevailing thoughts.

This type of behavior will not be tolerated and I would suggest that we get back to the BetPhoenix discussion.

If anyone wishes to continue in the raging tantrum that is "baccaratguy vs the world", please continue it over at baccaratlabs where it is in full swing.

Me? I intend to exit both discussions at my earliest convenience.

MVS

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Gentlemen,

I have mentioned in an earlier post about remaining civil and getting back to BetPhoenix. Evidently this hint was lost on some.

So, with the Administrative tools available to me, and a very intimate knowledge of "how stuff works", it was a mere trifle to do some research and the "numbers" bear out the prevailing thoughts.

This type of behavior will not be tolerated and I would suggest that we get back to the BetPhoenix discussion.

If anyone wishes to continue in the raging tantrum that is "baccaratguy vs the world", please continue it over at baccaratlabs where it is in full swing.

Me? I intend to exit both discussions at my earliest convenience.

MVS

Point taken...Just a thought...Perhaps this whole Thread should be deleted ...

Your call MV

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OK guys, let's take a time out from this love fest and steer the conversation back to the Bet Phoenix multi-deck observation.

Or, you could take it to baccaratlabs and let "Malcop" deal with it!

MVS

Hi MVS,

Can I get your take on what the effect is of two deck swapping? Do they deal hand for hand alternately, or is after say 10 hands?

I don't deal with BetPhoenix, but I've noted other online operators will 'palm' the first card, ie deal the first card of the hand straight to discard pile. From my observations so far, it doesn't seem to have any effect (as a result of them doing it on every hand?).

Interested to hear your thoughts...

Cheers

Chief

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Hi MVS,

Can I get your take on what the effect is of two deck swapping? Do they deal hand for hand alternately, or is after say 10 hands?

I don't deal with BetPhoenix, but I've noted other online operators will 'palm' the first card, ie deal the first card of the hand straight to discard pile. From my observations so far, it doesn't seem to have any effect (as a result of them doing it on every hand?).

Interested to hear your thoughts...

Cheers

Chief

No mate...It's common practice to use 2 alternating decks (generally red and blue).

Normally one deck is played out while the other is either hand shuffled by a different dealer or is machine shuffled. The decks are swapped over at the completion of the shoe in play.

Also...I agree...I haven't noticed any difference in play by the burning off of the first card on each deal

Oz

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Normally one deck is played out while the other is either hand shuffled by a different dealer or is machine shuffled. The decks are swapped over at the completion of the shoe in play.

Yes, exactly.

That's why I started this thread. I have never seen a casino put the second deck on the table while the first deck is in play. I haven't played on Bet Phoenix in a long time and I didn't remember seeing that before. I'm pretty sure that BP always used the same deck in the past. If my memory serves me right, then they would play through the deck and then reshuffle that same deck. So I got very confused when I suddenly logged in and saw two decks.

My guess is that they are trying to play more shoes to increase their profits.

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No mate...It's common practice to use 2 alternating decks (generally red and blue).

Normally one deck is played out while the other is either hand shuffled by a different dealer or is machine shuffled. The decks are swapped over at the completion of the shoe in play.

Also...I agree...I haven't noticed any difference in play by the burning off of the first card on each deal

Oz

Thanks mate.

Happy new year to all.

Chief

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