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Glenn, I look at the past systems as part of an evolution. As Ellis has alluded to many times, we can ALWAYS improve. Even NOR, the very best way to play baccarat, is still evolving. That is where NOR+ and the newest improvements (s40 mode 1 and the new third bet rule) come from. As it is good to know where we came from, it's more important to stay focused on where we are now and where we are headed. Your NOR manual and the peeps in the forum will "stop the bleeding", practice and more practice will lead to a level of competence where you will consistently win. Then, only you will decide how good your game will be.

Guys, I am not sure what you are able to see, but on my end I can not only access the 4d forum but I see 7 threads in it as well. From the main screen I click the baccarat forum, then on the next screen second from the bottom is the 4 D Forum. I click that and the 7 threads appear.

I totally agree with you, Oz

Ruebel, Keith posted three separate threads with the discount codes. Look in the NOR forum, the Private BJ forum and the baccarat forum from a few days ago/ pretty sure it was the 4th of NOV

And Ed, I totally agree with cooperation....what I don't agree with is paying a buck thirty yesterday for something others can get for free today. Just saying.

We should remember, guys, that specifics about the webinar and the new concepts shouldn't be given in open forum.

Look over the public forum areas, there is alot of info there. But rest assured, no sales letter will ever be able to describe how successful NOR really is. It is without fail the best money I have ever spent online, ever!

And page 11 is where the real "meat" of the approach starts...

I wholeheartedly concur with Oz

The on off idea is done in mode 2 ( thereby keeping the bets low) & alternating bets on and off of the run with a separate progression

That is assuming you were playing s40 because it was a choppy shoe

To clarify, the reason I said that ( instead of the same run idea) it that changing from mode 3 to mode 2 after a losing 3 bet gets me out of a losing situation earlier. The run has to go longer to win that way. And 9 iars are rare in choppy shoes

As I am not familiar with the platform being used, I cannot answer. However, many allow for that. Some only allow for the facilitator to record. I will have a secondary recording device handy...just in case.

Oz, I received an email from Keith that has a link to click on at the time of the webinar. It also gives options for audio connections....I would forward, but it is supposed to be unique to each subscriber. Check your email, or maybe spam folder

After losing the third bet in your progression you should switch to mode two for the next time that bet comes up, you stayed in mode 3. Try it again with that change.

I concur with all that MVS has said and would add that I used Moneygram when I signed up and bet Phoenix reimbursed the transfer fee to me...nice touch.

In earlier posts it is stated that the 4d was a misnomer, way2fast. The 4d is still in the development stage.

I would be willing to get up at 2am for this ( hell, I'm writing this at 3:15am). And, Ellis, you picked the 2 subjects for this webinar that I am most interested in! Can't wait.

Sounds like I will be signing up for this as well, but one question. Will it be recorded? As you know, I like to record the seminars so I can review them later. ( I glean a lot more the second time around). A simple audio file would be perfect I'm sure. Thanks, Chris

Sounds like I will be signing up for this as well, but one question. Will it be recorded? As you know, I like to record the seminars so I can review them later. ( I glean a lot more the second time around). A simple audio file would be perfect I'm sure. Thanks, Chris

The trend is your friend. ...

Odd that you would mention dreams, but I do LITERALLY dream about playing ( and winning)!

Yes, Ed. I play there, sometimes. I like my trips to A.C. a bit more though. And of course, I enjoy the live table at BETPHOENIX.com

First off, WELCOME! Secondly, you are correct, NOR+ and 4D will be waiting for you in the private area. With that said, I offer this little tidbit. Crawl before you run. The NOR manual seems like just a morsel, but it really contains A LOT of info. Digest, slowly. And like a good body builder, enjoy frequent, small meals of it. I still, after almost 2 years, read it daily. (and I still make new insights) After a few readings, make notes of questions you have, then re-read. If you still have areas that are cloudy, you will find MANY here who are willing to help. And one other thought; NOR can, by itself, teach you how to successfully beat this game. NOR+ is for later, concentrate on the basics now. Glad you are here!

IMSPIRIT...simulations and sour grapes. Don't be lead by the lost, 991. Those guys don't play real casinos, they play with math problems. In a word, LOSERS