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I would love to read the blog. Would you mind sending a link in a PRIVATE MESSAGE. I think this person most likely is just trying to hock his own system, but it might be fun to blitz his blog...

"Just as a straight run must always start with an Opposite, a ZZ run must always start with a Repeat so a B 4114 actually contains a ZZ run of 4 The number of 1's in a row +2 = the correct length of a ZZ. (A 414 contains a ZZ of 3.)" Peter, I had the same problem starting out. Just draw out, on paper, the string above. Then Reread Ellis' explaination. The visual may help.

But we follow only for the number of bets called for in the mode and system we are playing. S40 m2 can have two on the run bets where mode 3 would call for one, then back to opposites, just to use an example. Remember that OTB4L tracks BOTH zz and straight runs....

Straight and zigzag runs are what we (NOR players) are concerned with. And we are most concerned when we lose to them. Depending on the system we are playing and the mode we are in. Going OTR after 2 losing bets when in mode 2 means we then FOLLOW the run we are being beaten by.

You are correct Peter, but dont forget zigzag runs i.e. PBPBP

Bet Phoenix, shuffle.

Didn't mean to offend, gman. That's why my post said " should be the edit tab". You now have confirmation of the deficit. And I agree, your status as Junior Member is probably to blame.

Gman, to answer your question, look at the bottom bar of your post that you want to edit. Just left of the reply arrow should be the edit tab. If I were editing this post, the edit buttom would appear (on my screen) under the word "reply" in the first line of this post.

This is GREAT news, Ellis! I will be at the head of the line to purchase a practice tool like that.

gman, #68 is another gem for your binder I would say!

I agree Gman...I liked that lil tid bit myself...

Whenever one is planned it is in the Upcoming Events at the very top of the page

Just above the blue tab that says 'Reply to Thread', It says ' NOR Baccarat Manual' $600. Click there, after payment you will have access to the private forum, and all the answers you seek (well, baccarat answers!) Look forward to seeing you on the inside...

Too funny!

Oz, Zebra and Ellis have all made good points...but one thing that has been brought up could have easily been overlooked, so I have chosen to focus on committment. If GIVEN a gold brick, there are those out there who would complain about its weight (and having to carry it home)! Ellis and I discussed this point at Carmine's after the High Stakes Seminar. The NOR Approach is an excellent tool but it, as most tools, will not do the work FOR us. It takes much study and committment, even after one reaches a level of competence. I have been a member here since Nov of 2011, starting with NBJ and soon progressing to NOR (by a fluke accident I am pleased occurred). In the ensueing months, becoming years soon, there has not been a SINGLE day that I have not done something to improve my game. I have read the manual UNTOLD times, practiced shoes from the forum as well as Live play online shoes. I play the same shoes using multiple systems to see what I can learn from my mistakes and successes. And I use the one BEST feature of the program, I log in DAILY to the Forum here. I STILL learn from the questions of others who are having issues with a certain concept or difficulty. The learning does, and should, last forever. This works, PERIOD. Oz talks about gaining back the cost of the course in a day, I gauge my average shoe by those amounts. I have been using NOR+ since Ellis first, off handedly, mentioned it AT A BJ SEMINAR! He didn't call it that, just mentioned how he had been playing. I started experimenting the moment I got home! Seminars, a WEALTH of knowledge, are now paid for from PROFITS! I cannot recommend them enough! So, now I have a question for you, my friends.... Are you willing to carry your own brick home? Chris

Ellis, would this system be made available to those members who are unable to attend the Vegas seminar?

I am interested also, patiently waiting for posts from the attendees...

Happy Easter to all, as well!

Threes interlaced with ones are a perfect F shoe...

That explaination of F is even clearer than the NOR manual, good stuff!

I am certain of one thing; if it truly WERE commonplace, Casinos wouldn't (read COULDN'T afford to) deal Baccarat. In fact, we would be reading about it in History books and not on a Math Blog! If that is mundane to him, I need to meet his stock broker!

A MUNDANE 26% R.O.I., empires have been built on less than a tenth of that! How could he not see the implications of that?

Samples can be found here...http://www.beatthecasino.com/forum/s...l+Sample+Shoes

I did a google search and found one, brand new, shipped to me in two days for about $32. Contains WAY more shoes than i could practice on in a year!