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kramden Newbie

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OK guys,

You walk into a casino with one table.

You see this on the toteboard:

b p b p b p

b p 0 p b p

b

or we can transcribe it as:

B321222

(obviously the zero is a tie--posting will not allow for a space for a single B)

So the question is, would you sit down and bet and what would the bets be?

Please answer me with your reasoning.

I wish to have as many answers as possible from everyone please, as I am still figuring something out. Consider me as a "newbie".

kramden Newbie

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I bet p to follow the run of chops one unit only, then wait and see

Hey trb,

I posted it like a scoreboard. Those are not chops. They are vertical results just as they would be on the board.

Here they are in sequential order: BBB PP B PP BB PP

and does that mean you would not use a progression if you lost the first bet?

trbfla Newbie

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If I just walked up to this table.....and saw this on the tote board, then I bet b because of the run of 2's. However I flat bet one unit because I'm am not in profit yet. This is a new bet, I haven't filled out my 4d card yet so just a one unit bet for now until I profit. But if I was in profit it's a 1-2, maybe one day a 1-3 when I have learned all that I am to learn

I yell "winner winner chicken dinner on all naturals"

kramden Newbie

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If I just walked up to this table.....and saw this on the tote board, then I bet b because of the run of 2's. However I flat bet one unit because I'm am not in profit yet. This is a new bet, I haven't filled out my 4d card yet so just a one unit bet for now until I profit. But if I was in profit it's a 1-2, maybe one day a 1-3 when I have learned all that I am to learn

Nice explanation.

The only thing is for everyone, please dont say what you think I want to hear as the answer. (i am not saying that you are trb)

Remember I am a newbie and you guys play NOR or SAP or whatever.

And now I would like to see many more answers guys, Puh puh please!

There is no right or wrong and I have no judgement at all.

Thanks!

trbfla Newbie

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Yo kramden I gotcha but that's how I would play it......I need a card, get organized etc......so I have no history of table for my 4d I'm going into this blind but it looks like a run of 2s to me......might turn into s40 or a obt4l shoe......won't know till I write it all down.....

Now you know how I would play it, how would you play it if you were me trying to tell you what you wanna hear? Lol just messing with ya.....

Actually I saw this shoe yesterday it goes on for 5 p then 4b then p b p then 6 b

I yell "winner winner chicken dinner on all naturals"

kramden Newbie

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Yo kramden I gotcha but that's how I would play it......I need a card, get organized etc......so I have no history of table for my 4d I'm going into this blind but it looks like a run of 2s to me......might turn into s40 or a obt4l shoe......won't know till I write it all down.....

Now you know how I would play it, how would you play it if you were me trying to tell you what you wanna hear? Lol just messing with ya.....

Actually I saw this shoe yesterday it goes on for 5 p then 4b then p b p then 6 b

Good question for me trbfla,

I guess I will have to think about it for a bit...

BigVic Newbie

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OK guys,

You walk into a casino with one table.

You see this on the toteboard:

b p b p b p

b p 0 p b p

b

or we can transcribe it as:

B321222

(obviously the zero is a tie--posting will not allow for a space for a single B)

So the question is, would you sit down and bet and what would the bets be?

Please answer me with your reasoning.

I wish to have as many answers as possible from everyone please, as I am still figuring something out. Consider me as a "newbie".

So you're a newbie, trying to figure something out but at the same time never lose a single shoe. Uh huh. I'll tell you what you are, one weird duck.

Do you just like the attention from your posts or are you just full of BS and are desperate because your losing streak didn't end with bet phoenix and maybe followed you into the real brick casinos?

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Wendel Apprentice

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OK guys,

You walk into a casino with one table.

You see this on the toteboard:

b p b p b p

b p 0 p b p

b

or we can transcribe it as:

B321222

(obviously the zero is a tie--posting will not allow for a space for a single B)

So the question is, would you sit down and bet and what would the bets be?

Please answer me with your reasoning.

I wish to have as many answers as possible from everyone please, as I am still figuring something out. Consider me as a "newbie".

My first bet would be 1 banker. if banker won, I would look for the run of 2 iar's to continue and bet 1 banker again.

If banker lost I would bet 1 banker again, because I haven't seen what happens when player goes more than 2 iar.

It might be smarter to just watch the first bet or bet 0 one way or the other.

There, I think I am covered.

moneybac Newbie

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since i just got there,at my casino,you could wait until a tb4l showed up,like 3 in a row,then your next bet 1 unit on otb4l after the tbfl or 3 in a row,since we already had 3 in a row,then wait to see if it wins,if not is the shoe changing,end of run as we see in these preshuffle shoes today.now this might be different at the gold coast LV

MVSeahog Newbie

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OK guys,

You walk into a casino with one table.

You see this on the toteboard:

b p b p b p

b p 0 p b p

b

or we can transcribe it as:

B321222

(obviously the zero is a tie--posting will not allow for a space for a single B)

So the question is, would you sit down and bet and what would the bets be?

Please answer me with your reasoning.

Kramden,

I'm not sure why you keep posting these kinds of questions here in the public area, but that's your choice.

If I saw that at the table, I would immediately jump in with OTB4L.

Look at the count. Look at the lack of 1's. Look at the two's.

Either of the Fx's beats this. S40/Mx would work too.

This particular start is showing a lot of neutral, so go with what you've got.

I wish to have as many answers as possible from everyone please, as I am still figuring something out.

I'm trying to figure out why you keep posting up these questions here instead of in the more appropriate areas?

MVS (just my two cents worth)

What's an MVSeahog?

 

Bobby Newbie

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Hi Kramden,

From just looking at the board of what you are showing and mostly seeing 2iar events I would say the simple answer is start with OTB4L. That's the simple answer, now what's the "complex" answer ;)

kramden Newbie

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Kramden,

I'm not sure why you keep posting these kinds of questions here in the public area, but that's your choice.

If I saw that at the table, I would immediately jump in with OTB4L.

Look at the count. Look at the lack of 1's. Look at the two's.

Either of the Fx's beats this. S40/Mx would work too.

This particular start is showing a lot of neutral, so go with what you've got.

I'm trying to figure out why you keep posting up these questions here instead of in the more appropriate areas?

MVS (just my two cents worth)

Hello MVS,

I respect you alot. always did. You have wisdom from afar.

I can tell by the way you post.

So, it goes back and forth for me with you know who saying i am either talking against

NOR principles or i am saying the same thing as NoR teaches.

Which is it?

My thougts are being purposely mislead by those who are worried now about their

business income. When they KNOW that i have all valid points.

They even use my points weeks after i allude to them. And introduce them

non challantly so noone catches it.

So there is no respect for me by the "pros". Believe me, they have respect and hey cant

believe their eyes.

You know exactly what i mean . You are a smart man who gets it.

So in order to help all the members, even the ones who cant afford NORyet, i post it out here.

I would much rather have an HONEST exchange of ideas on the inside.

But there is no respect by too many. And too many others are too

afraid to speak.

kramden Newbie

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MVS cont.

Members are bullied by guys like big prick who NEVER contributes anything

of value. Never.

If i were a perceptive person with a genious memory, I would summise

he is a total loser, cynically beaten down by years of hard knocks.

By the wAy, did i mention that the first time i met mr D. About

TWO years ago, hed had on converse type sneakers and ate spaghetti and

meatballs for dinner. The meatballs were huge, he said.

That goes for rhe other one too, RUBE... limbaugh.

Never anything constructive or to help.

kramden Newbie

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So MVS,

move this post too, i have no ill intentions here. just to help people

up their game.

But u need to "keep out the dogs" (no offense katchatz)

And stop all the crap! everyone here can learn something new every day.

So the short answer: I have alternatives which can be added to

any aresenal. They are my own thoughts played out by years of study.

They are different. And since they"do not belong inside with NOR", they are

out here.

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bluetri Newbie

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By the wAy, did i mention that the first time i met mr D. About

TWO years ago, hed had on converse type sneakers and ate spaghetti and

meatballs for dinner. The meatballs were huge, he said.

I remember that the meatballs at Carmine's were the size of baseballs and Ellis and I split the plate and couldn't finish them. ( and Keith bought lunch)....but what does that have to do with Baccarat? I am losing you, Dave. ...where are you heading? And why not return my messages?
kramden Newbie

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I remember that the meatballs at Carmine's were the size of baseballs and Ellis and I split the plate and couldn't finish them. ( and Keith bought lunch)....but what does that have to do with Baccarat? I am losing you, Dave. ...where are you heading? And why not return my messages?

Members, you will benefit only after all posts like these stop.

All posts from anyone who either does not "see the points" or More probably sees them

but has their agenda.

And i offered my only olive branch.

This time there needs to be real change in the discussion. Or everyone but myself loses out.

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bluetri Newbie

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I remember that the meatballs at Carmine's were the size of baseballs and Ellis and I split the plate and couldn't finish them. ( and Keith bought lunch)....but what does that have to do with Baccarat? I am losing you, Dave. ...where are you heading? And why not return my messages?

Members, you will benefit only after all posts like these stop.

All posts from anyone who either does not "see the points" or More probably sees them

but has their agenda.

And i offered my only olive branch.

This time there needs to be real change in the discussion. Or everyone but myself loses out.

WOW! Really?!
Keith Smith Grand Master

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Kramden

I am not certain what the nature of this is but I am a bit confused. When you talk about meatballs, sneakers and keeping the dogs out can't paint anyone in a positive light that I can see not to mention what it has to do with Baccarat. You seem to be digressing to some sort of underlying beef or something against someone which is a mystery to me. I called the number I have on file for you to try to understand what it is you are trying to accomplish, and left you a VM. if the simple answer is nothing, as you seem to say then please stop with these esoteric posts that are somehow encoded and should be read between the lines to infer something.

This is for Baccarat discussion, then do that

Thanks for your attention to this matter.

I closed this thread

KEith

Members are bullied by guys like big prick who NEVER contributes anything

of value. Never.

If i were a perceptive person with a genious memory, I would summise

he is a total loser, cynically beaten down by years of hard knocks.

By the wAy, did i mention that the first time i met mr D. About

TWO years ago, hed had on converse type sneakers and ate spaghetti and

meatballs for dinner. The meatballs were huge, he said.

That goes for rhe other one too, RUBE... limbaugh.

Never anything constructive or to help.

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