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Thought I'd help you out Ellis, what's the opposite of dry? CC

Hey Keith, Interesting analysis re: two card natural comment, but I have a question..... Did you just take a shower? CC

Interesting analysis Keith, but I have a question..... Did you just take a shower? CC

Cool, I would like to to attend thi and offer assistance but I won't be in Macau until November... Oh well. CC

Cheer me up? Naaaa. What I was seeking her on the forum is continuity, of forward thinking and directional goal setting instead band wagon jumping to another to the next flavour of the month! Since last fall; 4D S40M1 3D100 The Oz Fiasco Chubby checker / twist $30000 in 30 days, back to the past with S40 Million Dollar System.... WHATS NEXT? Guess well have to wait until April fools to find out. At least the NOR approach has been most consistant development this board has seen We are great players and we need to be realistic.... CC

WARNING... READ AT YOUR OWN RISK, BECAUSE NOW... I'm not a happy camper. Whoaaaaaaa! Wait just a minute there Eliis..... This Million Dollar system has absolutely nothing to do with 4D of which you were heavily touting in the fall of 2013 and even to the extent of hosting a 4D seminar in Vegas with a system that would provide us the answer to use a Super Bett!! Wow, so many people were so excited and followed our high IQ master...... Ellis C. Davis.. Whom I respect and seek his knowledgable advice but.. What I'm seeing does look well in many eyes other than myself. I've received numerous emails and text messages from other members about the 4D and the latest developments and texts received lately are... WTH is Ellis doing? I managed to read between the lines... Just in time... I am so glad I cancelled my trip to Vegas and I will tell you... If I had gone, and see what has happened now that you have abandoned the 4D method, I'd be PISSED! Furthermore, this system developers John and Fiona have offered so much effort over the past 4 years and you promoted the 4D to the extent that it had been complete and yet you still have nothing and was unable to supply members with a shoe and with no actual "Live play experience by yourself nor offered at Vegas to prove it works" SHAME ON YOU! The new Millino Dollar System IMHO does not deserve the associated name you are posting here. The only thing that is relevant is that you gave up on the 4D because you could not come up with a solid system to use therefore now the Million Dollar plan is a diversion to the 4D. One more little tidbit.... I am one of the earlier members to this forum dated approx 2006 whereas I was given an honorary membership to the private forum yet I was not grandfathered to get the NOR Approach free as others did. I say no more about this. Heck! I was there on the telephone with Ellis when we came up with OTB4L ! I'm not saying that I disagree with the million Dollar plan.... 4D is not associated with it and therefore should not be named as. 4D IS STILL VERY MUCH ALIVE. Not trying to get you upset Ellis, you're an intelligent person but lately, I'm disturbed of what I've seen on this forum. I think you are smarter than this. CC

Perhaps he got beaten up at a casino after bragging about winning 100 shoes iar and then posting it for the world to see. poor Oz..... CC

Yes I agree with you Bobby, it would be nice to finally see a shoe with play by play selection for us visual types on this forum... We've been waiting for quite sometime to see a posted shoe of the 4D based on the rules posted by Ellis. This will most likely be more self explanatory for members of the forum and eliminate a lot of questions. A picture is worth a thousand words CC

Played NOR+ stop loss was at -12, stop win not half decade, my target was +5 or greater and when I was above +5 I would not risk a bet to take it lower. If I was +11or higher, didn't let it go below +10, at +16 or higher, didn't let it go below +15, using 5 unit increments. It is possible that I could have made more money by playing for higher target, but as I have mentioned that I've seen NOR give back my winning so I tightened up my stop. I'd rather win smaller more consistent than pushing the envelope This requires strong discipline I recommend that you record your wins with a spreadsheet or poker app on an iPad this gives you mental targets that are realistic and monitors your success and you may see changes depending on your notes. Another recommendation is to take your bankroll and divide into five session rolls and then decide by unit buy in units to arrive at your unit bet. If you should lose a session roll, then you have 4 session rolls left... STOP ! Now, use the same equation as I meant ironed above to reset to a lower unit size. THISIS VERY IMPORTANT TO YOUR BANKROLL SURVIVAL. Don't worry if this happens, you are likely able to rebuild and go beyond higher then you were before losing the first session roll. ALSO VERY IMPORTANT -- PAY YOURSELF AS YOU MAKE MONEY- I draw out 15 to 20% of my net winnings and deposit into my savings and chequing accounts on a regular basis. You need to reward yourself for your hard work as your bankroll grows and changes. I've paid for my vacations with this money.and you can too. Best wishes to all CC

Hello pipecub, I'll be realistic with you. "Read my lips". I needed to prove to the wife that NOR+ worked! she did not believe that I could win money consistently at the casino. Here's what I did. Showed her that I would do a refresh start at $300.00 and she monitored t my bank account to verify that I was being honest...lol. Then... In less than 6 weeks, I showed her $7,800 in CASH! and she hardly knew I was even playing cuz I played NOR+ hit n run style. She was astonished to say the least... Amazed. Now she can't wait to kick me out of the house to go make more money. NOR /NOR+ work! and there are other systems on the horizon. I can honestly say that you will go through a heftily learning curve studying and becoming a great player, this takes time. You will not regret becoming a member of the best baccarat players in the world. Welcome. CC

Gee whenever I am fortunate to be in a shoe that has just gifted me +25 units, I wouldn't let it drop below +20 units, by this time you are deep enough into a shoe that the turn of the worm can come out and there are very few hands left in the shoe to revolver a large sequence of losses. The deeper you are in a shoe, the tighter your stop / win should be. If you are unable to figure this out, you need to give your head a shake and hope you did some good. For some..... They just don't get it. Heck! During summer of 2013, I managed to win 38 consecutive partially played shoes as a result of tight stop win >= +5 units per shoe that equates to minimum +190 units! DO THE MATH... Some shoes were played as little as 4 minutes!!! My highest winning shoe was +26 units and two shoes above +10 How? NOR+. Ellis does not agree with this method, but I don't want to wastes hours at the table chasing for the tailored shoes that give +20 units like you see posted on the forum because...... SIMPLY, THEY DONT HAPPEN VERY OFTEN... Yes, you read it and don't let anyone tell you any different. As I leave the tables winning in such short time.. Consistently, I could hear Chinese players complain why I leave so quickly because they follow me almost hand per hand. I know I've said this before but, dealers have even asked me to teach them my method. Money management and risk management is key. NOW GET OUT THERE AND PRACTICE IT. I'm going back to bed... Lol CC

I couldn't agree more Ellis BTW, best wishes to you for a successful seminar. CC

Now that was just mean and nasty.... My eyes are buzzed out now. Lol CC

Most leaders are like that, not much to say but we listen to them all the. Same... Looking forward to the final chapter of "The Twist" CC

Ya Ellis doesn't care for Obamacare... Lol CC

Hi Kevin, I'm not only impatient, I'm growing a beard! CC

YA, My boss is looking over my shoulder.... worried..... LOL CC

YOU HAVE EVERYONE'S ATTENTION ! YOU HAVE POSTED SAMPLE SHOES YOU HAVE PROVEN THAT YOU ARE "REAL" "JUST SAY NO TO A 3D100 FIASCO" We all appreciate your genuine effort. CC

Oh yes, and this is why I strongly believe in brick and mortar casinos, the risk is too high on the internet and with dodgy sales tactics. Thanks for sharing this with us. CC

Like before, if i am unable to attend the webinar, will i be able to review the full video content at a later date? Cc

Will there be live play session with group on sat night or Sunday? CC

Well... I quit playing BJ in 2001 and never had the urge to ever go back since I find Baccarat more interesting. Not sure if I want to go back to BJ as other player bicker about the decisions you make at the table when things don't happen the way you want them too. The webinar sounds interesting but I am planning to sign up for Vegas seminar, I booked my hotel already, now to find an reasonable priced flight and then book my seminar with BTC, so I'm a third of the way there so far. CC

Sorry to rain on your parade, but....... This has already been accomplished on a spreadsheet well over a year ago. We already know the success rate of SAP. Please update yourself by reading through all the threads. PS; I remember many years ago when I was Y & D like you..(Young & Dumb), I was so distraught at a BAC table one night that I sat a whole shoe without a single bet placed, I could not believe they let me do that, but the rule in a local casino here was as long as you had chips in front of you, you were allowed to sit unless there is a waiting list... But then! I met Ellis and learned SAP and other successful methods on this Forum... I no longer experienced the bijeebies.. Ha ha... I now hold my head high as I walk into all casinos knowing that I am an advantage player with the best BAC methods known on the planet. I can switch from system to system depending what the character of the shoe dictates. The Asians all talk about me as I pick up and leave the table with my winnings, they follow me at the table, dealers ask me to teach them how to play the game, I receive comps and am complimented on how well I play from dealers and pit bosses. Bottom line, with Ellis's help, you get respect from all others. Ellis doesn't need your $500 offer, in fact it sucks and an insult, so why don't you go post your so called system or whatever you are dreaming about on other Baccarat forums and join all the losers there..... You are not welcome here. CC

Hey Peter, Great work, this looks to be a very good tool. CC

for easier notation I use red pen for 'OTR" bet units for easy identification for looking back to see if the 2nd OTR bet won or not. This is useful information for future bets of OTR. I also use RED pen for negative integers for all score tracking for NOR and 4D. CC