Norm A

Dragon 7 Bonus Bet • For each seated position, there shall be one separate and specifically designated area for the placement of a Dragon 7 Bonus Bet wager. A player may only place a Dragon 7 Bonus Bet wager if they have also placed a wager on either the player line or on the banker line prior to the initial deal. • Back-line betting is not permitted on the Dragon 7 Bonus Bet. (SEE OPTIONS SHEET) • See the collection rate schedule for restrictions on the amount that may be wagered on the Dragon 7 Bonus Bet and and any collection fees that may be taken. • If the banker hand has a point value of seven using three cards and the player’s hand has a value of six or less, regardless of the number of cards, the Dragon 7 Bonus Bet wins. The Dragon 7 Bonus Bet shall lose on all other outcomes. • All winning Dragon 7 Bonus Bet wagers shall be paid 40 to 1. • The player-dealer shall pay all winning Dragon 7 Bonus Bet wagers and shall collect all losing Dragon 7 Bonus Bet wagers. Once the player-dealer’s wager has been exhausted, the wagers not covered by the player-dealer shall be returned to the players.

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First never make a 2 unit bet until you win a 1 Unit bet. After you win 1 unit start your Prog with a 2 unit bet. All 1s go to 2 and all 2s go to 1 You never make a 3 unit bet. When you lose two bets iar ( 1,2 or 21) you start flat betting with 1 unit till you win, then back to the 12 Prog. as above in red. Never make a 2 unit bet if your score is -2 or more, flat bet till you get your score up to at least a 0 or -1. If you lose 3 bets iar stop and wait till you have 1 or 2 paper wins or you see a good signal to start betting again. If you lose 2 bets after getting back in it is probably time to quit the shoe and find another one.. I very seldom lose more then 4 or 5 units in a shoe, that is my stop loss. Note: if the shoe is exceptionally good and your score is high you could increase your Prog to a 23.

I played the shoe by just following the shoe, for the most part this was a strong sided shoe for banker. I scored a+ 15 at hand 58 Just playing 12,12,12 Prog. I am walking out the door right now to catch a flight to Mississippi to go to the Casino. So I will not be available to respond to anything else. NormA

A little confused when you say this shoe was 44 hands, I count 69 hands, at any rate I quit this shoe at hand 68 with +10 Playing the way I play which is follow the shoe. What score did you get and how did you play it ? (what system)

This was sent to me by a friend I am passing it along to all you might find it interesting. https://itunes.apple.com/sg/app/baccarat-scoreboard/id725956678?mt=8 NormA

BJplayer is far from being an idiot, in order to learn how a person thinks you must see what they do, you cannot be a mind reader. In my younger days I was a flight instructor, the basis of teaching is, TELL, SHOW AND DO THEN LET THE STUDENT DO. And idiot would be someone who thinks they could learn how to become a good Baccarat by just learning the rules of a system by picking up bits and pieces on the public forum. Every good player on the private forum will tell you that it took them many years of practice and shearing ideas to become good, just knowing the system rules don't mean a damn thing. After many years and thousands of shoes played in live casino playing you won't even be using the rules, you will learn your own style of play from experience. No one could teach you how to be a very good Baccarat player any more than Tiger Woods could teach you how to play golf the way he does.

In all fairness to BJplayer I don't think he was trying to start a new forum, I hope I am wrong but I believe he was just trying to establish contacts through email or Skype who would want to share thoughts, this is something that many of us have done in the past. The only difference and point that I was making is that he is wasting his time doing it with people from the public forum, when most of us did this in the past we did it amongst private members. As a matter of fact there is a way of setting up a private group on BTC forum, although I do not know if a public member can do this. Perhaps someday when he is able to afford it he will become a private member.

That is very true that is also what the private forum is all about. learning and shearing from and with people who have been doing this for a long time and know what they are doing. learning and shearing from and with people who are not private members is like the blind leading the blind.

How can you practice when you didn't learn how to play properly yet. ? Whether it be Nor or any other system. For friendship fine I will get on Skype with you and BS about the weather and anything else, I am always willing to make new friends.

Here is my 10c worth for what its worth. This is not pointed to you personally BJplayer, this is only to the public members that want something for nothing. All the members on the private forum paid to be here and learn from some of the best baccarat players in the world and contribute as they learn. Quite frankly if a public member cannot afford $600 to become a private member, then you cannot afford to play Baccarat as you probably don't have any bankroll, so why bother learning. If this is my forum I would not even have a public section. Oz, you are 100% correct I would never post a score card with the way I played it in the public section, As a matter of fact I don't even post them on the private section any longer as they seem to find a way in the hands of non-private members. The bottom line is if you want to learn how to play baccarat from some of the best in the world, pay up like we all did and become one of the boys. And someday you might become one of the best.

One of the very few, Andy

Sounds good to me but what bugs the shit out of me is that nobody ever says where they are from in their profile ????

Do a Google search for snagit you can get 30 day free trial and record any Video or anything you see on your screen, And it is easy to use. NormA

Dark Everyone on this forum is a gambler, Whether they are new and just starting out or they have been here a long time and are professionals. I get the impression that no matter what anybody says, you and pipecub want to believe that you could make a living gambling. With that said I think the both of you should go try to do that, If you have the bankroll to do so. Most people have to learn the answer to this question the hard way. 造化 NormA

I sent it Peteruk ask him for it. NormA

Thanks Peter for the clarification I thought it was a strange.

I was referring only to the casino that you put a link to, as they only show 00 wheel on their web site. I am aware that most of the casinos throughout Europe have single zero wheels. It just seems strange that this casino did not.

Hi Peter I find it very interesting that they do not have a European roulette wheel with a single zero. I assume being in the heart of London that this is a tourist casino and you won't find many local Roulette Players playing at this casino with a 00 wheel. Is it still the same as I remember from years ago that you must join the club in order to enter the casino ? Here is a funny story from a few years back in Vegas. I was playing at a single zero wheel when a young man came up to the table and started to play. When he realized that he was at a single zero wheel he cashed in his chips and said it was not fair for them to remove the 00 from the wheel. The dealer and I could not stop laughing for 10 minutes. It is no wonder how the casinos make so much money with dumb players like that. NormA

Hi Peter this might help. http://www.atochome.com/atochome1/Acronyms.htm NormA

The scorecard was added to post # 1. I had a hell of a time getting Mediafire to work. This thread should be a closed sticky thread so that new players don't have to keep asking where to find a scorecard. NormA

About 4 years ago the scorecard was a 4 column card, most of the members would make many of there mistakes when changing columns, including myself. This is where the groups of 20 came from when using the shortcut method to post a shoe as the 4 columns were 20 hands each. In order to avoid some of the these mistakes I designed a 2 column scorecard so that now you only change columns once instead of 3 times. This card also folds in half nicely the long way to use at the table. This card has hand numbers so that when you are discussing the shoe you could make reference to a hand. You have columns for SAP up to 5+, you could use a 3 or 4 SAP count if you want, just don't fill in the others.If you don't keep a SAP count just ignore 4 SAP columns. It has a CT column for what ever count you want to use. The score column is shaded so that you don't confuse it with the SAP column. The other columns are self explanatory. On top you could circle weather it was a MIDI or MINI table. Note: The shaded S column was shaded to be printed on a non color printer, the shading will be lighter or darker depending on your printer, as different printers will see it differently. I don't know what it will look like when printed on a color printer. Print it and enjoy using it. NormA N PDF sc.pdf

Yes, Stay on the strong side till you lose 2 iar and sometimes 3 iar depending on how strong the side is and slowly start to increase your bets. NormA

Go to universal baccarat then to play options post # 2 Play options is on page 6 in universal baccarat section.

After thinking about it, another thing that causes me not to see 80+ shoes, is that I very seldom play to the end of the shoe as I am out of the with my stop win or loss by then. NormA