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I've got big news!

On line casinos now do more business than real casinos.

Also they are more convenient and do not require travel and hotel rooms and meals or any expenses.

The idea of sitting in your pajamas at your computer and making good money in your spare time is VERY appealing to players like us.

Well Keith has been working on an on line system. It is an all out war type of system. The whole idea is to make lots of money betting small units.

Well Keith just won 20 live on line shoes in a row averaging 10 units per shoe playing every shoe with the exact same rules..

Look, anybody can get lucky and win a shoe - even 2 in a row and once in a while maybe 3.

But NOBODY can win 20 shoes in a row based on luck. 20 wins in a row takes skill. The system design has to be perfect.

Maybe it's the oversized cards and the shuffle results - I don't know.

But 20 wins in a row averaging +10 is unheard of especially on line.

He's certainly doing something right!

Personally one thing is for sure. I'm going to learn this system and start playing on line.

That's easy money!

Keith and I will have to get together and figure out how we'll market this thing.

We've definitely got a tiger by the tail here!

"ALL OUT WAR!"

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I've got big news!

On line casinos now do more business than real casinos.

Also they are more convenient and do not require travel and hotel rooms and meals or any expenses.

The idea of sitting in your pajamas at your computer and making good money in your spare time is VERY appealing to players like us.

Well Keith has been working on an on line system. It is an all out war type of system. The whole idea is to make lots of money betting small units.

Well Keith just won 20 live on line shoes in a row averaging 10 units per shoe playing every shoe with the exact same rules..

Look, anybody can get lucky and win a shoe - even 2 in a row and once in a while maybe 3.

But NOBODY can win 20 shoes in a row based on luck. 20 wins in a row takes skill. The system design has to be perfect.

Maybe it's the oversized cards and the shuffle results - I don't know.

But 20 wins in a row averaging +10 is unheard of especially on line.

He's certainly doing something right!

Personally one thing is for sure. I'm going to learn this system and start playing on line.

That's easy money!

Keith and I will have to get together and figure out how we'll market this thing.

We've definitely got a tiger by the tail here!

"ALL OUT WAR!"

When will this be out?

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I've got big news!

On line casinos now do more business than real casinos.

Also they are more convenient and do not require travel and hotel rooms and meals or any expenses.

The idea of sitting in your pajamas at your computer and making good money in your spare time is VERY appealing to players like us.

Well Keith has been working on an on line system. It is an all out war type of system. The whole idea is to make lots of money betting small units.

Well Keith just won 20 live on line shoes in a row averaging 10 units per shoe playing every shoe with the exact same rules..

Look, anybody can get lucky and win a shoe - even 2 in a row and once in a while maybe 3.

But NOBODY can win 20 shoes in a row based on luck. 20 wins in a row takes skill. The system design has to be perfect.

Maybe it's the oversized cards and the shuffle results - I don't know.

But 20 wins in a row averaging +10 is unheard of especially on line.

He's certainly doing something right!

Personally one thing is for sure. I'm going to learn this system and start playing on line.

That's easy money!

Keith and I will have to get together and figure out how we'll market this thing.

We've definitely got a tiger by the tail here!

"ALL OUT WAR!"[/

Just IMHO ( and experience ) , and speaking only on behalf of US Citizens...( I cannot speak for the rest of the BTC Universe)

Cashing in/ out to/from an on-line Casino is NOT like going to your local Casino!!!

You don't just sit down and pass the dealer a wad of Benjamin Franklins to begin play, and when you go to cash out, don't spend too much time wandering through cyber world looking for The Cashiers cage...( there isn't one)

Not to mention it is theoretically ( and literally) illegal...

Hey, I'm not Robocop, or even John McLane of Die Hard fame...I'm not even the ( bent) sheriff from Sons Of Anarchy...

But before getting all jizzed up (1) over staking your fortune in on line casinos, DO SOME SERIOUS HOMEWORK, and understand how the money-part of things work....a heckuva a lot easier to put it in, than it is to take it out...

All the best...

PS...(1) All That Jazz had already been used..

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All,

To paraphrase from some older messages......

Online banking with the casinos is an exercise that some won't want to deal with.

Although those of us in the Colonies only have one or two casinos to play in with real money, it can be done.

What you may not like is the increadible amount of information you're going to have to provide in order to either deposit or take out, ANY of your money.

It's all in the name of international money laundering and online security.

If you are not comfortable faxing or emailing a copy of your credit card to somebody in Curacao or San Juan or some other place "off shore", you'll be out of luck.

What I did to solve this problem was to apply for a bland credit card with a $500 credit limit and use THAT card to fund the account. If the casino you're dealing with decides to go rogue and take everybody's credit cards with them, you're only out $500 instead of everything you own in your "real" credit card account. Also be aware that most credit cards do NOT accept gambling sites as payees. What will happen is some sort of cash advance on the card to initially fund your online account.

For some reason this appears to work most times. Probably because the credit card company makes LOTS of money on cash advances so they aren't very picky about those. Be sure and ask to be reimbursed for those outrageous "cash advance" fees from the casino you're signing up with! They want your business. They will credit your account.

You may need to offer up copies of a drivers license, utility bill or even a passport! DO YOUR HOMEWORK and decide if this is a worthwhile risk to you, personally.

That's pretty much the basics for now. And as always, be sure and READ, READ, READ the signup documentation and then READ it again, especially the banking parts. It's your money. Make sure you know where it is!

When you get up enough to recover your initial deposit, make a withdrawl and then you won't feel so bad should the online casino go away in the future. Besides, after that, you're working with "their" money!

MVS

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All,

To paraphrase from some older messages......

Online banking with the casinos is an exercise that some won't want to deal with.

Although those of us in the Colonies only have one or two casinos to play in with real money, it can be done.

What you may not like is the increadible amount of information you're going to have to provide in order to either deposit or take out, ANY of your money.

It's all in the name of international money laundering and online security.

If you are not comfortable faxing or emailing a copy of your credit card to somebody in Curacao or San Juan or some other place "off shore", you'll be out of luck.

What I did to solve this problem was to apply for a bland credit card with a $500 credit limit and use THAT card to fund the account. If the casino you're dealing with decides to go rogue and take everybody's credit cards with them, you're only out $500 instead of everything you own in your "real" credit card account. Also be aware that most credit cards do NOT accept gambling sites as payees. What will happen is some sort of cash advance on the card to initially fund your online account.

For some reason this appears to work most times. Probably because the credit card company makes LOTS of money on cash advances so they aren't very picky about those. Be sure and ask to be reimbursed for those outrageous "cash advance" fees from the casino you're signing up with! They want your business. They will credit your account.

You may need to offer up copies of a drivers license, utility bill or even a passport! DO YOUR HOMEWORK and decide if this is a worthwhile risk to you, personally.

That's pretty much the basics for now. And as always, be sure and READ, READ, READ the signup documentation and then READ it again, especially the banking parts. It's your money. Make sure you know where it is!

When you get up enough to recover your initial deposit, make a withdrawl and then you won't feel so bad should the online casino go away in the future. Besides, after that, you're working with "their" money!

MVS

Thanks, MVS

You know a lot more about this than me...and I like to think I know a "bit" about anything on which I comment......

I am just trying to help others learn from my mistakes ( or perhaps my stubbornness to understand the "reality" surrounding on-line casinos, as they relate to US players...)

You not only summed-it-up very well...you gave guidance and direction to those who want to give-it-a-go...

Kevin

PS- And whatever you decide, BTC players, read the "really, really fine print" about those on-line "matching bonuses" !!

(Bonus offers formulated by the devil, for the devil...)

Good luck to anyone walks down that path....

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PS- And whatever you decide, BTC players, read the "really, really fine print" about those on-line "matching bonuses" !!

(Bonus offers formulated by the devil, for the devil...)

Good luck to anyone walks down that path....

Kachatz1,

I'm glad you brought that up. I'm not a big fan of any of the "bonus" offers from online casinos. In fact, I believe they are to be avoided at all costs, literally!

Toss in the fact that most onine casinos won't accept baccarat or table game play to satisfy the requirements of the bonus offer, it makes declining the bonus a no-brainer.

As usual, READ the details of any bonus offer and if they insist, tell them you do NOT want the bonus. Period.

We play online to beat the baccarat game, not to try to get "free" money from a hugely biased "bonus" offer.

So, avoid the bonus offer and tell your casino representative that you do not want it when you're discussing initial buy-in money. It's just not worth it for the baccarat player while online.

MVS

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All,

To paraphrase from some older messages......

Online banking with the casinos is an exercise that some won't want to deal with.

Although those of us in the Colonies only have one or two casinos to play in with real money, it can be done.

What you may not like is the increadible amount of information you're going to have to provide in order to either deposit or take out, ANY of your money.

It's all in the name of international money laundering and online security.

If you are not comfortable faxing or emailing a copy of your credit card to somebody in Curacao or San Juan or some other place "off shore", you'll be out of luck.

What I did to solve this problem was to apply for a bland credit card with a $500 credit limit and use THAT card to fund the account. If the casino you're dealing with decides to go rogue and take everybody's credit cards with them, you're only out $500 instead of everything you own in your "real" credit card account. Also be aware that most credit cards do NOT accept gambling sites as payees. What will happen is some sort of cash advance on the card to initially fund your online account.

For some reason this appears to work most times. Probably because the credit card company makes LOTS of money on cash advances so they aren't very picky about those. Be sure and ask to be reimbursed for those outrageous "cash advance" fees from the casino you're signing up with! They want your business. They will credit your account.

You may need to offer up copies of a drivers license, utility bill or even a passport! DO YOUR HOMEWORK and decide if this is a worthwhile risk to you, personally.

That's pretty much the basics for now. And as always, be sure and READ, READ, READ the signup documentation and then READ it again, especially the banking parts. It's your money. Make sure you know where it is!

When you get up enough to recover your initial deposit, make a withdrawl and then you won't feel so bad should the online casino go away in the future. Besides, after that, you're working with "their" money!

MVS

Problem easily solved...

No way would I consider giving my Credit Card details to an online Casino.

I use Neteller... http://www.neteller.com/ or Ecocard... https://www.ecopayz.com/en-GB/Home for all my online transactions. (commonly called EWallets) They are both safe as houses and recognised worldwide for payments to merchants...transferring money...deposits...withdrawals etc and pretty much every online casino accepts them.

The security for both cards is extreme to the point of paranoia but the peace of mind is worth it.

An added bonus is that withdrawals from a casino via your Ewallet are expedited (mostly same day) provided you deposited using the same Ewallet.

I am betting with serious money nowadays and have yet to have any issues with either casinos or my Ewallet provider. Also, your transactions are insured (similar to Paypal).

It's a simple matter to organise your Ewallet online and you can begin transferring small amounts immediately ...but in order to start transferring large sums, you will have to verify your Account and this is where the security becomes exceptional.

Also...I would highly recommend using one of the online "Casino check" sites before depositing money in any Casino. (I use Casinomeister http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/private.php) Check for "Accredited Casinos" and "Rogue Casinos") but there are a few other reputable sites that provide similar ratings.

Hope this helps

Oz

Also...I totally concur with the opinions expressed above about "BONUS OFFERS"...Avoid like the plague. I got caught out even though I rejected the original Bonus offer when I deposited first up at one casino but they got me by sneaking a small bonus further down the line. It mattered not in the end as I completed the "Play Through" provisions easily enough and have taken said casino to the cleaners...LOL...KHARMA is a BIATCH.. Ha

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Problem easily solved...

No way would I consider giving my Credit Card details to an online Casino.

I use Neteller...

I tried to sign up for Neteller some time back and was told I wasn't allowed because of my geographic location.

Eventually I'll find something that will work better than a base credit card.

MVS

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I tried to sign up for Neteller some time back and was told I wasn't allowed because of my geographic location.

Eventually I'll find something that will work better than a base credit card.

MVS

That sux big time.

I'm thinking that I must be close to being BARRED from the online Casinos that I frequent so it might be an idea for me to make a discreet exit and become a member elsewhere.

Considering that the fine print in the "Terms and conditions" of most online casinos asks the question "Have you ever been barred from any online casino for any reason?"

Gotta try and outsmart those cagey bastards...LOL

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Hey MVS-

I recently signed up with Neteller. I made a deposit using my debit card/visa and in about a week I received the card. One problem I am having is that the online casinos that I use will not accept Neteller from US customers (to fund or redeem winnings)... Go figure... I actually funded my accounts (2 at different sites) with Moneygram and payout is done the same way. So far so good, I made a withdrawal of $500 a couple of weeks ago, just to make sure I will get paid before I wasted time building up the account without being allowed to withdraw. Good luck...

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Hi Ellis,

Any update to where you are at or plans on showing us or selling us:

"...Well Keith has been working on an on line system. It is an all out war type of system. The whole idea is to make lots of money betting small units. Well Keith just won 20 live on line shoes in a row averaging 10 units per shoe playing every shoe with the exact same rules... But 20 wins in a row averaging +10 is unheard of especially on line... one thing is for sure. I'm going to learn this system and start playing on line... Keith and I will have to get together and figure out how we'll market this thing. We've definitely got a tiger by the tail here! "ALL OUT WAR!"

Paul

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