BronxAl Posted January 6, 2022 Report Posted January 6, 2022 Thank you, "Canada Bacc w/ Vertical and Horizontal Methodology" This is an especially important concept. I also believe and follow. Another tool in our toolbox. 3 1 Quote Be a Tracker and Hunt wisely!
Users Westfoot11 Posted January 6, 2022 Users Report Posted January 6, 2022 I found this a very interesting topic. I will play FTS at times and this gives another way to make bet selections. I think more videos and discussion on this topic is appropriate. I would love to see a more difficult shoe next time. Thanks @CANADABACCand @Keith Smith. 2 1 Quote
XDN Posted January 6, 2022 Report Posted January 6, 2022 @CANADABACC Horizontal and Vertical...this is the most concise and understandable description of the concept that I've seen. Great Job! 2 1 Quote
Users Nate W Posted January 6, 2022 Users Report Posted January 6, 2022 Great explanation @CANADABACC. Seems very similar to V87. Thanks for the video @Keith Smith . 1 1 Quote
CdnChamer Posted January 11, 2022 Report Posted January 11, 2022 It's nice to see an interesting View on something that is .. well.. Just right in front of us yet not all players recognize this as valuable data to take advantage of. Great Video, Thanks Keith and CanadaBacc 1 Quote
Baccarat Hall of Fame Member kachatz1 Posted January 12, 2022 Baccarat Hall of Fame Member Report Posted January 12, 2022 Great stuff, Canada B For me, I am going to call it BACCARAT HVAC ( HVAC is a common term we likely all know, refers to your home’s , your apartment’s, your wherever-U-live … - HEATING, VENTILATION AND AIR-CONDITIONING Because, we all Live-and-breathe in the world of Baccarat (H)ORIZONTAL, (V)ERTICAL, AND ‘ (A)ctual (C)onditions ( currently in play within the shoe we are in…) CB…This is an extremely valuable concept. And to put it into a “ visual” , for all to see and understand , I have asked Keith for his help to memorialize it… Call it what you want to. ( this not in your playbook? Good-luck with that…) 1 Quote
GerryM Posted January 12, 2022 Report Posted January 12, 2022 (edited) Thank you CanadaBacc and Keith, I just saw the video and added Horizontal/Vertical play to my playbook. Edited January 12, 2022 by GerryM 2 Quote
trillion Posted January 12, 2022 Report Posted January 12, 2022 CanadaBacc and Keith the horizontal and vertical way of playing is definitely a different approach of follow the shoe. I have played follow the shoe with a limited amount of success and i am looking forward to see more of these type of videos exploring how to play baccarat. Could you have a follow up video on a more difficult shoe where there is a multiple # of 1's, 2's and 3's in the early part of the shoe and lets see how follow the shoe navigates these different type of baccarat shoes? Keep up the great work CanadaBacc and Keith! 1 Quote
Keith Smith Posted January 12, 2022 Author Report Posted January 12, 2022 Yes, I am doing a members-only one here shortly. this first stuff is very similiar to don't play what you haven't seen KS 1 Quote
Users PJC1200 Posted February 21, 2022 Users Report Posted February 21, 2022 Any suggested money management strategy to pair with this? Seems like flat betting would work. But did anyone find any others which also work? Quote
Baccarat Hall of Fame Member kachatz1 Posted February 22, 2022 Baccarat Hall of Fame Member Report Posted February 22, 2022 (edited) HIT-Rate ( why’s that?) once you can ‘win- more-than-you-lose” consistently ( hoping I don’t have to explain) …. Work towards getting your session win/hit -rate around 54-56-58-60+% FLAT-BETTING Then, and only then, experiment with a mild progression … AND THE MOMENT YOU SEE IT AIN’T WORKING? Go back to square1 (Rinse and Repeat) IF YOU CANNOT WIN FLAT-BETTING ? Then what would you choose a progression thinking it would help overcome the inevitable ? ( That’s where U Lose….) Oops, I said it again. ( and she got in a lot of trouble…) Edited February 22, 2022 by kachatz1 1 1 Quote
Fedda Posted March 2, 2022 Report Posted March 2, 2022 Hello again old friends! I have been away for the last couple of years because i have been unemployed and short on money. It has been rough.. The first thing i will do when my economy gets better is to rejoin this fantastic club. I have really missed it! I just wanted to say i really like this Vertical and Horizontal approach with the 221 money management. When the VH approach doesn't call for a bet, i check the most recent common and the current bias and decide to make a bet or wait. Today's practise session online, i made 47 units and the biggest bet was 13 units. So far the string of uncrossed numbers haven't been long. I suspect that the HV approach keep the negative variance low, but i need to test more shoes. Cheers! 2 Quote
Fedda Posted March 2, 2022 Report Posted March 2, 2022 Thanks XDN! Can’t wait to get back to Premium members! 1 Quote
Baccarat Hall of Fame Member kachatz1 Posted March 2, 2022 Baccarat Hall of Fame Member Report Posted March 2, 2022 Hey Fedda- Want to win in the casino? Baccarat, just like life, can prove to be a slippery-slope. —But we are indeed fortunate that we have so many resources on the forum can help us figure-things-out. - If we just open our minds…not just to the possibilities…but to the HOW-TO/WHEN-TO ( might not be the next best thing to ‘ sliced bread” , or even WONDER BREAD, but You want to win in the casino? So far, nobody has stepped up to show me something better…) welcome back !! and if I can help you, let me know… 1 Quote
Fedda Posted March 2, 2022 Report Posted March 2, 2022 Thanks @kachatz1 This is why this is THE club, because you guys! Quote
winbac Posted March 2, 2022 Report Posted March 2, 2022 On 1/13/2022 at 9:12 AM, trillion said: CanadaBacc and Keith the horizontal and vertical way of playing is definitely a different approach of follow the shoe. I have played follow the shoe with a limited amount of success and i am looking forward to see more of these type of videos exploring how to play baccarat. Could you have a follow up video on a more difficult shoe where there is a multiple # of 1's, 2's and 3's in the early part of the shoe and lets see how follow the shoe navigates these different type of baccarat shoes? Keep up the great work CanadaBacc and Keith! Quote
winbac Posted March 2, 2022 Report Posted March 2, 2022 Hi Fedda, I would be very interested how you play follow the shoe. I have been playing FTS very successfully for a few years. If you play it properly, you don't have to rely on any system, as we know systems can't work, because the shoe changes so often. No system can factor in those changes. With FTS, it unfolds in front of you. You can immediately see the change happening and you can adjust your play accordingly. Let me know how you play FTS. Cheers Quote
Users Max66 Posted May 15, 2022 Users Report Posted May 15, 2022 Hello CanadaBacc and Keith, I wanted to ask you what to do in this situation: BBB P BB P B PP B . In this case I have the horizontal confirmation but not the vertical one. Is it right to play Player or is it better to skip the hand? Thanks, Massimo Quote
Keith Smith Posted May 15, 2022 Author Report Posted May 15, 2022 That is no bet for me of course I would be using the 10 best bets in Baccarat as an additional qualifier. Quote
Users Max66 Posted May 15, 2022 Users Report Posted May 15, 2022 36 minuti fa, Keith Smith ha detto: Non è una scommessa per me, ovviamente userei le 10 migliori scommesse nel Baccarat come ulteriore qualificazione. Thanks, Massimo Quote
Users barneypip Posted May 15, 2022 Users Report Posted May 15, 2022 @Max66 I see a descending trend on the bank side, and the player side starting to ascend. I'd bet player here. 1 Quote
XDN Posted May 15, 2022 Report Posted May 15, 2022 @Max66 I'd go with player for this reason. 1. O4 and O7 have a great bias (07 is less important here IMHO because we don't have a lot of shoe history at this point and the event lengths are < 3). 1 1 Quote
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