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Congratulations Avion I assume the wedding will be a grand affair in LV best Pando

Welcome Felix You have done the right thing, everything you need to know is in the forum Make the most of the advice the players here give you regards Pando

Hi everyone, With year end approaching I thought I would start this new thread. I want to know what helped you most in the BTC Forum, what was a game changer for you? Here is mine, a one liner by Ozscouser1 Just to emphasise again the importance of the weak side when playing SS Its in the thread Strong Side Play (September 13, 2016) That has been the most meaningful "light bulb" moment for me all year, whats yours Pando

Yes you can create your own database of shoes for the casino you play at

Dublinbet do a hand shuffle after each shoe.

Yes you did say that Wolfat and I thank you for it It has added a new dimension to my game, its well worth playing that way

I want to add another dimension to the SAP discussion. Here is a shoe I played yesterday; P6341131115821211431132151111 Its a great shoe for me (which is why I played it in the first place). My trigger was the 6IAR at the start, I knew I was in for some good profit. $$$ But that's not why I am writing this Lets split out the Player and Banker sides P641118114131111 B31315221312511 The weighted SAP for the whole shoe is 16/6/16/24 You can see it has low 2's, nothing unusual there Now lets do a weighted SAP for each side P 10/0/4/16 B 6/6/12/8 By splitting the shoes into separate sides with separate SAP's I can see the trends/bias much more clearly than if they are in one running SAP count For example, the Player side has NO 2's but had more 4IAR+ than banker Conversely the Banker side had all the 2's and more 3's, but was lower in 1's and 4IAR+ Its true sometimes we can see this information on the tote board, but splitting the running SAP count, it helps me anyway. I now do it routinely on my scorecard and combining it with splitting the shoe into P & B, I easily see the patterns in the shoe Some of those patterns in this shoe (with MDB+ in mind) are for example, the single 1's in Banker, and the 2 x 3's going to 4 in Banker You get the idea. I have not done any testing on the veracity of playing MDB+ on each side but it looks promising. I suspect that the data is stronger on each side rather than the shoe as a whole. But that is yet to be proven regards Pando

Yes thank you Keith

I like this concept Avion, thank you I used the concept in a horrible shoe from yesterday in which I finished exactly even to the dollar. Here it is P11121221412144111422112211121213141122212 The shoe showed no real consistent bias of any kind (for me anyway) But plotting it using the ODD/EVEN concept threw out a bias of -12 I have more work to do, but it looks interesting Thanks for sharing

I have seen it too I played a table with a 12IAR Player run, and elderly Chinese lady played every hand against the run She ran out of cash after 10 losing bets Then I saw her go to the cashier, got another $2,000 and proceeded to do the same thing on a similar shoe at another table I actually saw her doing it again last Sunday, that's how she "plays"

I would love to see it to, please

I think we all go through periods of activity and inactivity for various reasons Some of us are still working, so have other commitments to family and career Oz has been and hopefully will continue to be one of our main contributors Its strength in numbers and accumulated that helps us through the battle to beat the game

Well said trillion

Luck has nothing to do with winning at baccarat. If you loose, blame yourself, not the shoe or bad luck Banker 6 (you call half payments) are part of the game. Learn to live with it. If you are not playing ties (as you should not) they do not effect you to any degree.

Yes about 2 years for me too My win rate is about 68% average of all bets in all shoes

I wish we could get those every day, life would be a breeze

I should add that I flat bet all the way with the exception of 2 bets where I played an extra unit after I won Banker 6 hands (pays 1;2) and so added that half payout to the next bet. Both won.

Here is a nice shoe I played yesterday B42111161311115111161151123161131 My stats were Bets 58, won 38, lost 20, (65.5% win rate) nett outcome +36 units As this was such a great S40M1 shoe, I played the IAR an ZZ runs until they finished, perhaps I could have capped them at 5 or 6. That meant I lost a unit on the final bet when the runs finished, you would need to be good to pick the end of the runs accurately I figured there was a great chance one run would go into double figures, but that didn't happen The strong side in the shoe was all Banker for the first 22 hands, then a couple of switches to Player, back to Banker, then Player until the end The shoes had only 2 x 2's, and 2 x 3's (2 of which were very near the end) Interestingly all of the shoes on the day were like this regards Pando

Hi epstein Yes I stop for a while, I almost never play 2's unless they are occurring in bunch with very few 1's My trigger after the 2's are finished is 4 plays without 2's, then I may resume hope this helps Pando

I should have said that this new game uses 8 decks of cards, and the machine actually deals the cards It is not a computer generated (RNG) system The brochure says the casino hold is 1% to 4%

Hi everyone My casino has just introduced a computer generated Black Jack game (by Interblock) I have never played black jack, put off mainly by the bad press the game has had in recent times Now I wonder about this computer based game, and whether there is any edge Here are the dealers stats I wrote down from the past 300 games; Dealer hand 17 (35 times) Dealer hand 18 (35 times) Dealer hand 19 (37 times) Dealer hand 20 (52 times) Dealer hand 21 (23 times) Dealer Black jack (10 times) Dealer BUST (72 times) I wonder if anyone can tell me how close to statistical expectations those statistics are Thanks in advance Pando

I thought I would write something a bit lighter today just to convey my own baccarat experience yesterday at SkyCity, Auckland, NZ I enter the at the normal time of 10am, 8 tables are open, 2@$50 minimum, 2@$100 minimum, and 2@$200 minimum. I select the $50 table with the prettiest dealer, and order a flat white from the waitress. It arrives in no time as they know me, and I get good service. The coffee is very good. The dealer prepares the shoe, and I cut it. I always cut the shoe in the middle plus 15 cards from the front. Then when that front bundle of cards is moved to the back, and the dealer places the card near the end of the shoe, my cut is at the front of the playable deck. I cant account for the burn which in this case was 10 cards. I buy in for $1500 (30 units @ $50), $1000 black and $500 green ($25) chips. The game begins. I had observed the other shoes in play were quiet long as opposed to the day before where the was very little longer than 4IAR We start with a B3 and then an opposite run of 1121. But then the shoe changes. Here is the entire shoe; B31121354253613212612512124311 Its end up being short on 1's (10), a bit short of 2's (6) but had very nice 4's or more although not excessively long. It was the consistency which gave me the confidence. It was the nice run of hardly any 1's after the bunch at the start that made the shoe so easy, for me anyway. At the least, just playing away from the 1's was rewarding. I played a 2/3 loop, and made 40 units on the shoe Most of the shoes I saw while playing this shoe were also long, one started B626161614, talk about strong sided. (It was a $200 table which I am not playing yet). I wish all days would be that easy cheers Pando

OK guys, here is my data I looked through 70 shoes (I agree not statistically many) and found the following; 221 occurred 51 (54%) times in those shoes, 222 occurred 43 (46%) times in those same shoes Where there was 2221, I counted as both I guess the jury is still out

This is a very useful observation by CT70, and now confirmed by Brad I will be keeping an eye on these 221 plays when I am playing at the week end. Thanks guys

if I had to bet it would be Player Player runs are stronger in this part of the shoe (4's and 6's), bankers are weak 1's and 2's