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When you used FTS, did you use 1 2 3+ or 1 2 3 4+? I think FTS is best when used with 3 columns and you stay within the 3 columns. Just my opinion.

No word from @DeanJ, or anyone else from over there. Don't know how we will find our way around the Vegas tables this week without their help and guidance.

Welcome back!!!

"Does anyone know the difference between Strategic and Premium?" Same as...

Nailed it...

You gotta love in when someone who has no frigging idea of how to win at Baccarat doles out advice. Show me a Baccarat Player who uses RGN's to practice and I will show you a losing Baccarat Player. Why do you think that every winning player on this site extols the benefits of playing "REAL" Casino shoes and recognises the downside of RG's? I don't know what your problem is...you seem to troll a variety of Gambling sites offering advice while by your own admission having a Bank Roll that would barely cover cab fare. The casino shoes on Strategic Baccarat will not in themselves teach you how to win but used in conjunction with the advice/methods taught here...will give players the best chance they are ever likely to have of joining the "Winners Circle" RGN's simply train you up to lose.

Exactly W2F, and THAT is why players who beat random generators can't understand why they can't win in a casino. Especially with preshuffled cards.

A myth put forward mostly by mathematicians and people who have little or no experience playing baccarat in a casino.

Currently over 700 shoes with more real casino shoes being added every day... That should keep you out of mischief. BTW: Stay the hell away from Random Generated...It isn't the same .

All quiet on the Western Front and I expect it will remain so. Funny how things change when you are held to account.

Too bad there was no response. Would have been fun to get together with so many professional players. "Rumble" or not -- hey @DeanJ, since your partner is too busy......how about you come out Dec 15th for some baccarat? I'm sure I could learn some new tricks from you, and just maybe you'd pick up a thing or two about winning at baccarat.

Good idea Kevin.

At your current rate of progress...you will be playing $500 units long before anyone on "The Site that cannot be named"... I've given up on "The Baccarat Rumble in Vegas" as it appears that ... Ellis is far too busy... Dean also is far too busy posting half naked pics on the internet and checking himself out in every mirror he sees... Carlos(when not fudging figures) is probably still on the run from some rather nasty people that objected to being ripped off... And it appears that despite all their big talk...no-one on CFC is prepared to put their money where their mouth is (a nice way of saying that they are still waiting for their balls to drop)... maybe if we dropped to Reds and Greens?...but I doubt it... I'll let the idea of the "Baccarat Challenge" between the two Forums go, with one proviso...every time CFC start mouthing off about BTC...I will reissue the challenge aimed in particular at the poster. I figure that I won't get RSI from typing...LOL

Ellis had a problem with the so called "infallible" ANB system in that it was totally mechanical and the figures couldn't be fudged so he introduced a switch to OTB4L when the signs were right (which will always be subjective) and "voila"...we have an excuse for losing...You didn't "follow the shoe" correctly..."Oh, wait"...

Keith, did this event happen on the 19th? Has a recording been posted?

So why wouldn't you email the source with your questions?

You are close! See you in Vegas soon!

I'm not surprised to hear that. We know baccarat has one of the lowest house edges in the casino. Why play anything else? CT70

Is your winter over yet? Lol.

I understand the offer to play together in a real casino has been declined by Ellis/CFC. Too bad -- it is always fun to join up with other players to beat the casino -- like we all did a few weeks ago in Vegas.

An email has been sent to Ellis. We await his reply...(sound of crickets chirping)

As I understand the situation...The monthly price remains the same but due to so many people just paying one month's subscription and then downloading every bit of info on BTC, the powers that be instituted a one-off joining fee of $149 which I fully understand...still beats the shit out of the current "DISCOUNTED" CFC joining fee of $1000 (soon to be $3000) and $250/year thereafter. No contracts here...You can walk away whenever... unlike CFC where once you pay their $1,000 joining fee...they can ban you for any complaints or dissent with no right of refund. Trust me...It has happened to several players already. They simply have no ethics...

You got my hidden meaning...You really got it...LMFAO Two things though...Firstly... It is a sad reflection on you that you understand my twisted sense of humour...secondly ...re the pom poms...Thanks for screwing up my sleep patterns even more than they already are...

Water is something I use only to brush my few remaining teeth...I would never think of actually drinking the horrid stuff (leastwise without scotch)...but we are on the lookout for a "beerboy" if you are interested? I kinda had my eye on a beerbitch (BJH)from the UK but in these days of Political Correctness...probably not a good idea. And she definitely won't come if Dean is gonna be there. Hmm...I have a feeling that I could have phrased that better...but no matter...I'm right on both counts. My apologies to BrianJohnsonsHat...but I couldn't let the opportunity pass...

Ahh yes...fond memories...The infamous CFC SECRET WEAPON...The Licence to print money...a secret known only to a select few...the 6 7 8 Progression...The Progression you play when you aren't actually playing a Progression...The day that went down in CFC history...The day Ellis discovered Flat Betting and Copyrighted it...